<div dir="ltr">I have been offline a few days, but, this being an email list, I have not missed anything said :-), can think about it a while, and and can continue the discussion in a meaningful way, having had time to think. That is not so easy with IRC. I understand your points Paul and Donna and accept the opinions. Points of divergence of opinion are:<br>
<ol><li>Immediacy: If you have something you want feedback on, its quicker to just email the list at the time you think of it, not have to wait for a 'meeting' time to come around. All you are getting at 'meeting' time is off-top-of head feedback, not considered thought. Which is more valuable?<br>
</li><li>Formality: Bollocks mate, I can just as easily talk like a duck via email, but at least I will have time to correct my typing before I send it out.</li><li>"It would seem that the synchronous IRC meeting has already generated greater cross-communication and awareness of other lugs" You almost appear to be implying that this (or any other issue) could not be raised and achieve a similar result via email. IMO: the fact that it came up on IRC should not suggest that to me: if it were a real issue it would inevitably have been raised via email. BTW: I did not raise the incorporation issue at the last meeting. It was already on the agenda somehow, possibly as a result of my emails with Donna about it as I was leading an exercise to consider doing it here on the Gold Coast. If the resulting info were not provided at the last IRC meeting, I would have simply responded to any question about it on here, or would have published it directly unsolicited. As it was I saw it was on the agenda so I held off a day or so. So having an IRC meeting did not add value here either, in fact it probably detracted, as I never got to write the reasons etc, but having announced on IRC that incorporation here was dead, saw little point in writing more full info later to this list.<br>
</li></ol>Having read and considered your opinions, I have to say that I am even more convinced that my original opinion is right. Well it is for me anyway :-). I just cannot see how you consider that you are getting quality of decision-making input in a timely manner, but I think I am starting to repeat myself so it probably time to move on.<br>
<br>Cheers<br>David<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 11:14 PM, Paul Wayper <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:paulway@mabula.net">paulway@mabula.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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Donna Benjamin wrote:<br>
| On Wed, 2008-07-30 at 12:37 +1000, David Tangye wrote:<br>
|> I am not sure why you hold an IRC 'meeting' at all. IRC introduces the<br>
|> problem of people needing to all do it at the same time, which in my<br>
|> opinion is totally pointless.<br>
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| Thanks for your opinion David.<br>
|<br>
| Here's my view...<br>
| Attending lugcomms meet is not compulsory - and we don't need everyone<br>
| to be there all of the time. The point of lugcomms is to foster<br>
| inter-lug communication. Both between lugs, and with Linux Australia.<br>
| The mailing list exists - and has existed for some years.<br>
|<br>
| It would seem that the synchronous IRC meeting has already generated<br>
| greater cross-communication and awareness of other lugs. That is its<br>
| purpose, so I don't agree at all that it is pointless.<br>
|<br>
| The meetings themselves have a loose agenda, and anyone can contribute<br>
| topics towards it. The 'incorporation' topic was originally raised by<br>
| you, and I added it for discussion even though many others have been<br>
| over that ground many times before.<br>
|<br>
| Do others think the IRC meetings are pointless?<br>
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No, not at all. I don't see the #lugcomms IRC meetings as greatly changing<br>
the way I do things in the CLUG, but OTOH it is good to know and communicate<br>
with all those people from the other LUGs in an immediate and conversational<br>
manner. Email can be formal and a bit stilted. And being able to get a quick<br>
'show of hands' on some issues is very useful.<br>
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JM2cW,<br>
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Paul<br>
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