<div dir="auto">Noel,<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">As someone who is not on the council, and doesn't even know most of the current council well (so no personal axe to grind)...</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">You are indeed being both rude and unprofessional. Please walk away from the keyboard for a while and consider your manner.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I can understand your frustration, but the way you are expressing is not helping.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Regards,</div><div dir="auto">Neill </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><div dir="ltr">On Mon., 31 Dec. 2018, 12:06 Noel Butler via linux-aus <<a href="mailto:linux-aus@lists.linux.org.au">linux-aus@lists.linux.org.au</a> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="font-size:10pt">
<p>I've run mail servers including for ISP's for 25 years or so, although I personally dont run DKIM, some of the servers I run do, and so are very aware of whats involved.</p>
<p>Whats unprofessional here is councils usual "it's not an open source software idea so shaft it again till whenever", perhaps the new council will take a different approach and address the request and be transparent about it and in a timely manor.</p>
<p>As for NYE? seriously? This has been brought up a few times, well before NYE.</p>
<p>No wonder this place is loosing active members. Council has done a lot of good, but its lacks in other areas when it comes to something that doesn't suite them.</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
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<p>Noel, I'm going to give you an opportunity to reconsider your approach here. It's unprofessional, and quite frankly, downright rude. </p>
<p>Implementing DKIM has a number of follow on impacts, as we've seen from previous work in this space, which need to be considered. </p>
<p>You may also wish to consider that it is currently New Years' Eve, and our Admin Team (and Council) may be enjoying some well-earned rest and recreation. I'm not going to bother them with DKIM at this time.</p>
<p>Kathy</p>
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<div class="m_-8532249710280578531moz-cite-prefix">On 31/12/18 11:44 am, Noel Butler via linux-aus wrote:</div>
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<p>huh? you need a council meeting to determine if someone can add a simple setting to mailman? like... WTF ?</p>
<p>Are any of you actually system administrators? if you are, hang your heads in shame if you are that dictatorial over what the sysadmin team can do on the mail/list server, a task that would take no more than 30 seconds.</p>
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<p>On 31/12/2018 00:46, Linux Australia President via linux-aus wrote:</p>
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<div class="m_-8532249710280578531pre" style="margin:0;padding:0;font-family:monospace">Hi Russell, the Council is busy with reporting requirements and an election before the AGM; this is not a priority for us currently. We will revisit this if we have time.<br><br><span>Regards,</span><br><br> Kathy<br><br><span>On 25/12/18 9:52 am, Russell Coker via linux-aus wrote:</span>
<blockquote type="cite" style="padding:0 0.4em;border-left:#1010ff 2px solid;margin:0"><span><a href="https://lists.linux.org.au/pipermail/linux-aus/2017-July/023173.html" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.linux.org.au/pipermail/linux-aus/2017-July/023173.html</a></span><br><br><span>Here's a link to a previous discussion of DKIM and Linux Australia lists,</span><br><span>which contains links to previous discussions dating back to 2013.</span><br><br><span>Below are the log entries about the latest DKIM failure. Could someone please</span><br><span>set REMOVE_DKIM_HEADERS=Yes in Mailman to solve this issue?</span><br><br><span>Also it would be ideal if messages sent out by the Linux Australia servers</span><br><span>were DKIM signed.</span><br><br><span>Dec 24 20:25:05 smtp postfix/smtpd[11955]: 5B8CBF638:</span><br><span>client=<a href="http://mailhost.linux.org.au" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">mailhost.linux.org.au</a>[192.55.98.181]</span><br><span>Dec 24 20:25:05 smtp postfix/cleanup[12096]: 5B8CBF638: message-id=<492883e1-</span><br><span><a href="mailto:bd70-ce68-93d2-8d80f94d3631@linux.org.au" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">bd70-ce68-93d2-8d80f94d3631@linux.org.au</a>></span><br><span>Dec 24 20:25:06 smtp opendkim[683]: 5B8CBF638: s=default d=<a href="http://kathyreid.id.au" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">kathyreid.id.au</a> SSL</span><br><span>error:04091068:rsa routines:int_rsa_verify:bad signature</span><br><span>Dec 24 20:25:06 smtp opendkim[683]: 5B8CBF638: bad signature data</span><br><span>Dec 24 20:25:06 smtp postfix/cleanup[12096]: 5B8CBF638: milter-reject: END-OF-</span><br><span>MESSAGE from <a href="http://mailhost.linux.org.au" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">mailhost.linux.org.au</a>[192.55.98.181]: 5.7.0 bad DKIM signature</span><br><span>data; from=<<a href="mailto:announce-bounces@lists.linux.org.au" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">announce-bounces@lists.linux.org.au</a>> to=<<a href="mailto:russell@coker.com.au" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">russell@coker.com.au</a>></span><br><span>proto=ESMTP helo=<<a href="http://mailhost.linux.org.au" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">mailhost.linux.org.au</a>></span><br><br></blockquote>
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