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</head><body><p>Ok I've found the original submissions.<br></p><p>For anybody that's interested they are now at<br></p><p><a href="https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/help-and-support/how-to-engage-us/consultations/the-assistance-and-access-bill-2018">https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/help-and-support/how-to-engage-us/consultations/the-assistance-and-access-bill-2018</a></p><p>towards the bottom of the page.<br></p><p><br></p><p>Mark<br></p><p><br></p><br><blockquote type="cite">On 14 November 2018 at 11:26 Andrew Donnellan <andrew@donnellan.id.au> wrote:<br><br><div dir="auto"><div>The original link was to public submissions being taken by the Department of Home Affairs on the consultation draft. What you link to is the submissions that have been made to the Parliamentary Joint Committee on Intelligence and Security during the course of their parliamentary inquiry, which is separate.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Andrew</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><br><br><div class="ox-78a81bcfe5-gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Wed., 14 Nov. 2018, 10:35 Mark Phillips via linux-aus <<a href="mailto:linux-aus@lists.linux.org.au">linux-aus@lists.linux.org.au</a> wrote:<br></div><blockquote><u></u><div><p>Hi all,<br></p><p><br></p><p>Just checking the original submissions page and got a 401.<br></p><p>I found this <a href="https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Committees/Joint/Intelligence_and_Security/TelcoAmendmentBill2018/Submissions" target="_blank">https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Committees/Joint/Intelligence_and_Security/TelcoAmendmentBill2018/Submissions</a><br></p><p>But both mine and yours seem to be missing.</p><p>Is this just a recent thing and they haven't finished moving everything yet?<br></p><p><br></p><p>mark<br></p><p><br></p><blockquote type="cite"><br id="ox-78a81bcfe5-m_8411829799976382918ox-f4e9d46a9d"><p><br></p><p><br></p><blockquote type="cite">On 05 November 2018 at 15:31 Linux Australia President via linux-aus <<a href="mailto:linux-aus@lists.linux.org.au" target="_blank">linux-aus@lists.linux.org.au</a>> wrote:<br><br><p>Hi Mark, <br></p><p>Just a minor point of clarification - Linux Australia partnered with several other digital rights and technology groups and co-signed a detailed submission here; <br></p><p><a class="ox-78a81bcfe5-m_8411829799976382918ox-f4e9d46a9d-ox-848f788247-moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/consultations/Documents/new-america%27s-open-technology-institute.pdf" target="_blank">https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/consultations/Documents/new-america%27s-open-technology-institute.pdf</a><br></p><p>This also speaks to the point you've made about the capacity of multiple groups to effect change - partnering and collaboration on pieces like this help to reduce the efforts required by both organisations. </p><p><br></p><p>Best wishes for the call for board members, <br></p><p>Kind regards, <br></p><p>Kathy<br></p><p><br></p><div class="ox-78a81bcfe5-m_8411829799976382918ox-f4e9d46a9d-ox-848f788247-moz-cite-prefix">On 5/11/18 3:23 pm, Mark Phillips via linux-aus wrote:<br></div><blockquote type="cite"><p><br></p><p>Hi All,<br></p><p>I just saw this email on the linux-aus list so I thought I would reply. (full context at bottom)<br></p><p>In particular:<br></p><p style="padding-left: 90px;">Nevertheless, significant challenges remain.<br> The lion’s share of the work in 2018 was done by OSIA<br> Company Secretary Jack Burton and to a lesser ex-<br> tent from February to July also by my predecessor as<br> Chairman, Mark Phillips. Ultimately, such a division<br> of labour is unsustainable. If that continues, it would<br> be inevitable that the organisation will again & again<br> burn out those individuals who are willing to contribute,<br> lurching from one crisis to the next as they leave.<br></p><p style="padding-left: 90px;"><br></p>1) I hope there is no implication that my resignation was due to a burnout.<div> I wish to assure everybody that that was not the reason.</div><div><br></div><div>2) I haven't seen the OSIA newsletters since I resigned, so could you let me know what OSIA's has done since I resigned? The only thing I can see is that a possible director being negotiated with at the time of my resignation didn't join and that Don Lowe has also resigned. Oh, and the road shows were cancelled.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Mark</div><div><br></div><div>PS While I'm asking, is there a reason why OSIA didn't submit anything for the Assistance and Access Bill 2018 <a href="https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/about/consultations/assistance-and-access-bill-2018?" target="_blank">https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/about/consultations/assistance-and-access-bill-2018<br> </a><br></div><div>I have a personal submission.</div><div><br></div><div>PPS. I am also a bit worried that LA as a body didn't submit anything either. So next time something like this comes up, I'll be asking for contributions from both OSIA and LA.<br></div><div><br></div><div><br><blockquote type="cite">On 04 November 2018 at 18:06 James Polley via linux-aus <a class="ox-78a81bcfe5-m_8411829799976382918ox-f4e9d46a9d-ox-848f788247-moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:linux-aus@lists.linux.org.au" target="_blank"><linux-aus@lists.linux.org.au></a> wrote:<br> <br><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Hi all,<div><br></div><div>(Please note that I'm writing this email in a purely personal capacity)</div><div><br></div><div>It's come to my attention that the Open Source Industry Association call for nominations for directors for the 2018 board has opened, and closes this Friday November 9.</div><div><br></div><div>OSIA is an organisation that I feel has substantially complementary interests with Linux Australia. Where LA works to support the community through financial sponsorship of events and user groups, OSIA works to support the community by representing companies and other organisations within Australia who invest in or build their future on FOSS. Primarily this has been done through public policy work - including making direct representations to government, but also working with the press and other bodies to build awareness of issues that affect our ability to work on FOSS. A detailed report on the work OSIA has done over the last few years - including representations to <span id="ox-78a81bcfe5-m_8411829799976382918ox-f4e9d46a9d-ox-848f788247-ox-b63dbf9c9b-ox-6dceb20dd5-gmail-1515" class="ox-78a81bcfe5-m_8411829799976382918ox-f4e9d46a9d-ox-848f788247-ox-b63dbf9c9b-ox-6dceb20dd5-gmail-gr_ ox-78a81bcfe5-m_8411829799976382918ox-f4e9d46a9d-ox-848f788247-ox-b63dbf9c9b-ox-6dceb20dd5-gmail-gr_1515 ox-78a81bcfe5-m_8411829799976382918ox-f4e9d46a9d-ox-848f788247-ox-b63dbf9c9b-ox-6dceb20dd5-gmail-gr-alert ox-78a81bcfe5-m_8411829799976382918ox-f4e9d46a9d-ox-848f788247-ox-b63dbf9c9b-ox-6dceb20dd5-gmail-gr_gramm ox-78a81bcfe5-m_8411829799976382918ox-f4e9d46a9d-ox-848f788247-ox-b63dbf9c9b-ox-6dceb20dd5-gmail-gr_inline_cards ox-78a81bcfe5-m_8411829799976382918ox-f4e9d46a9d-ox-848f788247-ox-b63dbf9c9b-ox-6dceb20dd5-gmail-gr_run_anim ox-78a81bcfe5-m_8411829799976382918ox-f4e9d46a9d-ox-848f788247-ox-b63dbf9c9b-ox-6dceb20dd5-gmail-Grammar ox-78a81bcfe5-m_8411829799976382918ox-f4e9d46a9d-ox-848f788247-ox-b63dbf9c9b-ox-6dceb20dd5-gmail-only-ins ox-78a81bcfe5-m_8411829799976382918ox-f4e9d46a9d-ox-848f788247-ox-b63dbf9c9b-ox-6dceb20dd5-gmail-replaceWithoutSep">government</span> on various issues, and the outcomes that have been <span id="ox-78a81bcfe5-m_8411829799976382918ox-f4e9d46a9d-ox-848f788247-ox-b63dbf9c9b-ox-6dceb20dd5-gmail-1552" class="ox-78a81bcfe5-m_8411829799976382918ox-f4e9d46a9d-ox-848f788247-ox-b63dbf9c9b-ox-6dceb20dd5-gmail-gr_ ox-78a81bcfe5-m_8411829799976382918ox-f4e9d46a9d-ox-848f788247-ox-b63dbf9c9b-ox-6dceb20dd5-gmail-gr_1552 ox-78a81bcfe5-m_8411829799976382918ox-f4e9d46a9d-ox-848f788247-ox-b63dbf9c9b-ox-6dceb20dd5-gmail-gr-alert ox-78a81bcfe5-m_8411829799976382918ox-f4e9d46a9d-ox-848f788247-ox-b63dbf9c9b-ox-6dceb20dd5-gmail-gr_gramm ox-78a81bcfe5-m_8411829799976382918ox-f4e9d46a9d-ox-848f788247-ox-b63dbf9c9b-ox-6dceb20dd5-gmail-gr_inline_cards ox-78a81bcfe5-m_8411829799976382918ox-f4e9d46a9d-ox-848f788247-ox-b63dbf9c9b-ox-6dceb20dd5-gmail-gr_run_anim ox-78a81bcfe5-m_8411829799976382918ox-f4e9d46a9d-ox-848f788247-ox-b63dbf9c9b-ox-6dceb20dd5-gmail-Punctuation ox-78a81bcfe5-m_8411829799976382918ox-f4e9d46a9d-ox-848f788247-ox-b63dbf9c9b-ox-6dceb20dd5-gmail-only-del ox-78a81bcfe5-m_8411829799976382918ox-f4e9d46a9d-ox-848f788247-ox-b63dbf9c9b-ox-6dceb20dd5-gmail-replaceWithoutSep">achieved,</span> is in [2]</div><div><br></div><div>Just like LA relies on volunteers to serve on the Council, OSIA relies on volunteers to serve on the Board (different names, equivalent functions). If you're someone who relies on being able to work on FOSS in order to earn a living, I'd urge you to look into OSIA and consider whether you could potentially assist by standing for election to the Board.</div><div><br></div><div>(I'll be saying something similar about the Linux Australia council in a few weeks)</div><div><br></div><div>The full call for nominations is at [1] and the Annual Report for the year is at [2]. In case you missed the subject, note that the call for nominations closes on Friday the 9th November, and you'll need to be a financial member - and seconded by another financial member in order to stand for election. Full details on how to nominate are in the FAQ at [1].</div><div><br></div><div>[1] <a href="https://lists.osia.com.au/pipermail/osia-members/Week-of-Mon-20181029/000417.html" target="_blank">https://lists.osia.com.au/pipermail/osia-members/Week-of-Mon-20181029/000417.html</a><br></div><div>[2] <a href="https://lists.osia.com.au/pipermail/osia-members/Week-of-Mon-20181029/000416.html" target="_blank">https://lists.osia.com.au/pipermail/osia-members/Week-of-Mon-20181029/000416.html</a><br></div></div></div></div>_______________________________________________<br> linux-aus mailing list<br> <a class="ox-78a81bcfe5-m_8411829799976382918ox-f4e9d46a9d-ox-848f788247-moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:linux-aus@lists.linux.org.au" target="_blank">linux-aus@lists.linux.org.au</a><br> <a class="ox-78a81bcfe5-m_8411829799976382918ox-f4e9d46a9d-ox-848f788247-moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/linux-aus" target="_blank">http://lists.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/linux-aus</a><br> <br> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to<br> <a class="ox-78a81bcfe5-m_8411829799976382918ox-f4e9d46a9d-ox-848f788247-moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:linux-aus-unsubscribe@lists.linux.org.au" target="_blank">linux-aus-unsubscribe@lists.linux.org.au</a><br></blockquote><br> </div><br><pre class="ox-78a81bcfe5-m_8411829799976382918ox-f4e9d46a9d-ox-848f788247-moz-quote-pre">_______________________________________________
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