<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Let me give one that's relevant to Australia and IT;<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">SAGE-AU was all but dead a few years back. Long did we argue why, but the name was definitively restricting us from gaining new members. We know this because we had people actively leaving because they were no long sysadmins, or actively ignoring us because they weren't sysadmins despite being IT professionals - which was the intended target community. SAGE-AU realised that the industry had changed and the traditional sysadmin position had evolved with it, and renamed to stay relevant. ITPA is now much larger than it was when said change happened. They also have a newly formed, and strong, future providing IT certification, plus due to their history they also have the resources and weight to be able to actively influence the evolving IT ecosystem in AU via multiple means.<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">The broader IT community is changing, business is changing, open source has and will be forever changing. Unless we do the same, we'll definitely have a lovely little pocket of the Australian open source world with a few conferences (of super awesome quality) to bring in funds that we can do some good with. But that's about it. Maybe that's enough for some? Given the reported numbers, it looks like others would like to have a future with LA actively existing and leveraging the successes of the past to build a bigger, better and more inclusive future.<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">(I'm not saying OSA is the best option, the OSIA/OSA confusion is well worth considering. And to be frank, so would OSIA merging with LA.)<br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 24 December 2017 at 15:27, Noel Butler via linux-aus <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:linux-aus@lists.linux.org.au" target="_blank">linux-aus@lists.linux.org.au</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="font-size:10pt">
<p>Reminds me of an episode of Bar Rescue a few years back...</p>
<p>Old owner, great well known name, great patronage</p>
<p>Old Owner sells to New Owner</p>
<p>New Owner changes name</p>
<p>12 months on in dire straits</p>
<p>Johnny Tapper changes name back to Original name (and few minor changes - not one of his all in reno eps tho)</p>
<p>Patronage soaring again 6 months on</p>
<p>So much so New Owner changed name back to his.</p>
<p>6 months on bar nearly empty</p>
<p>6 more months on bar closed</p>
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<p>I'll be voting no, like last time, and the time .....</p>
<p>If you want a new organisation to represent open source, start it up yourself rather than try piggy back of LA's success.</p>
<div>Merry Christmas y'all</div>
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