<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra">Hi,</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 12:56 PM, Anthony Towns <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:aj@erisian.com.au" target="_blank">aj@erisian.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class=""><snip><br></span></blockquote><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class="">
</span>Well, Kathy has presented a plan for some time now that suggests going<br>
significantly towards the "pay" side of that equation: the "Inflection<br>
Point" doc answered that unequivocally:<br>
<br>
Should the organisation hire paid staff and/or outsource some initiatives?<br>
<br>
Yes. Although the measures outlined above will help to increase the<br>
Volunteer capability and capacity available, it still won’t be<br>
enough to undertake growth and advancement activities.<br>
<br>
Paying people to do things that we traditionally have volunteers do isn't<br>
innately a bad idea; if not for hiring an event organiser lca2014 would<br>
not have happened, for instance.<br>
<span class=""><br></span></blockquote><div><br></div><div>AJ has raised an important point.</div><div><br></div><div>I was dubious of the "Inflection Point" discussion in the beginning but after a re-read and the time in between it's clear to me that:</div><div><br></div><div>- Most points raised have become self evident since the document was first published.</div><div>- The author has remained consistently dedicated to their belief and strategy outlined in that document and very willing to have that tested in the public forum.</div><div>- There has been no concrete alternatives offered that I am aware of.</div><div><br></div><div>Yes... Kathy "has presented a plan for some time now"</div><div>It has been open to debate for quite a long time (3 years or was it 2? ).</div><div><br></div><div>Kathy has professionally and IMHO successfully prosecuted the case for such changes ..and done so over an extended period.</div><div>Dedication such as that speaks for itself and to me clearly demonstrates motivations of passion for the right outcome. </div><div><br></div><div>It seems clear to me that there is no other way for LA to prosper in the long term.</div><div><br></div><div>BW</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class="">
> - I trust others smarter than I to research, report and implement.<br>
<br>
</span>And if that's the case, well, Kathy did two out of three of those a<br>
year ago, and continues to propose to do the third.<br>
<br>
(I'm still curious why the council hasn't already gone further forward<br>
with this; I assume Kathy tried to get the quote executed sometime in<br>
the last six months, but there aren't any minutes since June that I can<br>
see that might document any concerns, and I haven't seen any hints at<br>
discomfort with the approach from anyone else that might've presented<br>
a blocker)<br>
<span class=""><br>
> I'm going to suggest something a little radical perhaps too - is it worth<br>
> convening an actual real-time conversation (say teleconference) to kick some<br>
> of these things over amongst interested folk. Email can at times be a blunt<br>
> instrument ?<br>
<br>
</span>I don't really see the point of that; I spent about three days<br>
thinking about what I wanted to say in my previous mail, and a good<br>
twenty-four... uh, thirty-six hours or so now for this one and the<br>
next. In particular, that included doing a bit of web searching and<br>
delving through my archives to try to ensure I'm not talking completely<br>
out of the wrong orifice... So real-time conversation really doesn't seem<br>
like an advantage, unless, I guess, the goal is for me to say something<br>
(even) stupid(er)?<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
aj<br>
<br>
[0] At least until Rusty finishes the lightning network, and bitcoin<br>
becomes a practical and cheap payment method, and we get an open<br>
source API to money in general as a side effect.<br>
<br>
[1] I'd much rather applaud the LCA2017 team developing their own<br>
improved conference registration system [2] and consider that approach<br>
[3] the normal, expected, recommended and generally ideal approach<br>
for LA teams to take when they want improvements...<br>
<br>
[2] <a href="https://github.com/lca2017/registrasion" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/lca2017/<wbr>registrasion</a><br>
<a href="https://chris.neugebauer.id.au/2016/04/27/introducing-registrasion/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://chris.neugebauer.id.<wbr>au/2016/04/27/introducing-<wbr>registrasion/</a><br>
<br>
[3] AIUI, this was funded by two PSF grants totalling about $10k USD:<br>
<br>
<a href="https://www.python.org/psf/records/board/minutes/2016-02-08/#new-business" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.python.org/psf/<wbr>records/board/minutes/2016-02-<wbr>08/#new-business</a><br>
<a href="https://www.python.org/psf/records/board/minutes/2016-05-10/#new-business" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.python.org/psf/<wbr>records/board/minutes/2016-05-<wbr>10/#new-business</a><br>
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