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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-AU link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>As Chancellor Palpatine, paraphrased, said to Queen Amidala, “Now the bureaucrats step in.”<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> linux-aus [mailto:linux-aus-bounces@lists.linux.org.au] <b>On Behalf Of </b>James Polley<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, 2 December 2016 11:10 PM<br><b>To:</b> russell@coker.com.au<br><b>Cc:</b> Linux Australia List <linux-aus@lists.linux.org.au><br><b>Subject:</b> [Linux-aus] How did non-event sub-comittees get formed?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 12:21 AM, Russell Coker <<a href="mailto:russell@coker.com.au" target="_blank">russell@coker.com.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmail->On Friday, 2 December 2016 7:46:18 AM AEDT Anthony Towns wrote:</span><br><br><span class=gmail->> I kind of think that in practice that 95% of the reason LA is valuable</span><br><span class=gmail->> to anyone these days is that it helps people *run* events; and if so,</span><br><span class=gmail->> that isn't really valuable to that many people -- the pool of people</span><br><span class=gmail->> running open source related events in Australia (and maybe NZ) just</span><br><span class=gmail->> isn't that big.</span><br><span class=gmail->> Personally, I think of LA as an organisation run by/for open source</span><br><span class=gmail->> developers/admins/power users -- so, by and large, it doesn't make</span><br><br>I think the problem here is that LA was traditionally an organisation for such<br>people, but the LA council is focused on running events etc.  This isn't a<br>problem as such, changing the name to "council" with the aim of having lots of<br>subcommittees was a good idea but it unfortunately didn't get followed<br>through.<br><br>We need subcommittees for things such as Linux advocacy.  I will consider<br>volunteering for such a subcommittee.<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I was about to respond by pointing to <a href="https://github.com/linuxaustralia/constitution_and_policies/blob/master/subcommittee_policy_v2.md">https://github.com/linuxaustralia/constitution_and_policies/blob/master/subcommittee_policy_v2.md</a> - but on closer reading, that policy seems to be only for event subcommittees.<br><br><a href="https://github.com/linuxaustralia/constitution_and_policies/blob/master/subcommittee_policy_v1.md">https://github.com/linuxaustralia/constitution_and_policies/blob/master/subcommittee_policy_v1.md</a> still refers to sub-committees that exist "to facilitate LA's operations or" as "a project undertaken with the governance of the council"<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Could a current council-member confirm that the "v1" policy is the policy that would apply to a Linux advocacy sub-committee?<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>