<div dir="ltr">...and I'm out.<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 26 April 2016 at 15:49, ac <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ac@main.me" target="_blank">ac@main.me</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
Chris,<br>
<br>
Why do you insist that I address your/my/anyone's concerns in public?<br>
<br>
And with regards websites, brand names, etc. as I did clearly say<br>
originally and again in my revision - I do not yet have any of that. -<br>
please read the revision again, for clarity.<br>
<br>
Why is it relevant or why does it matter what open source projects I<br>
personally have contributed to?<br>
Are you demanding and insisting on that information because i reacted<br>
to someone on this list insinuating that I "rip off" other people's<br>
work?<br>
<br>
Please explain or educate and help me understand the Linux Australia community better:<br>
<br>
Someone posted on this list that people who redistribute spamassassin<br>
are STEALING/THEFT (rip off) someone else's work.<br>
<br>
Nobody - except myself, reacted to that<br>
<br>
So, Linux Australia considers someone who sells a Linux DVD as a thief?<br>
<br>
I find some people's reactions very combative (and rude) I honestly do<br>
not know why. It cannot be because you do not have my home address and<br>
it cannot be because I am unwilling to tell you something - there is no<br>
onus on me to give any information on a public list.<br>
<br>
Anyway, I withdraw my request and I do honestly apologize for wasting<br>
the lists time. This will be my last reply on this - even if someone<br>
were to call me a monkey :)<br>
<br>
So have fun, insult me some more, demand more things as "proof" and<br>
good luck with that.<br>
<br>
On Tue, 26 Apr 2016 15:15:19 +1000<br>
<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">Chris Debenham <<a href="mailto:chris@adebenham.com">chris@adebenham.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Andre, you still have not responded to any of my concerns.<br>
> The most basic things are a name, a website, pointers to some relevant<br>
> source code contributions etc.<br>
> The only things I could find relating to you online were not<br>
> encouraging to say the least but I can only assume that you are a<br>
> different person than the Andre Coetzee that I found reference to<br>
> online (of who I could find no evidence of code contributions beyond<br>
> some php code from a few years ago)<br>
><br>
> On 26 April 2016 at 15:09, ac <<a href="mailto:ac@main.me">ac@main.me</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> ><br>
> > Thank you for taking the time to help me Rob & Chris, here is what I<br>
> > should have posted:<br>
> ><br>
> > Hello, my name is Andre<br>
> ><br>
> > I have developed new Linux based spam technology and I am<br>
> > interested in bringing it to Australia.<br>
> ><br>
> > The reason I am posting to this mailing list is that the technology<br>
> > is built on Linux and I am keen on finding an Australian Linux<br>
> > partner to work with on this project.<br>
> ><br>
> > I am also offering that the list could use this Linux technology,<br>
> > at no cost, and as it functions external (no software to install)<br>
> > to servers and is controlled by the server(s) administrator, the<br>
> > risks to critical infrastructure is mitigated as it could be<br>
> > switched on/off instantaneously.<br>
> ><br>
> > If the risk is still considered to be too high, as I have no track<br>
> > record or credibility and you risk investing/wasting your time, we<br>
> > could revisit this proposal if, or after, I find someone to work<br>
> > with.<br>
> ><br>
> > I do not yet have an AU brand name or any other information as this<br>
> > is not a proposal or sales pitch for my technology, but simply a<br>
> > request for any interested party to contact me off list so that we<br>
> > can discuss the technology and I could demonstrate the workings<br>
> > thereof to such interested party(ies)<br>
> ><br>
> > Should I not find an Australian party, no worries, I will start the<br>
> > venture in a different country and then bring it to Australia at a<br>
> > later time.<br>
> ><br>
> > Thank you for taking the time to read my request and have a nice day<br>
> ><br>
> > Andre<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > On Tue, 26 Apr 2016 13:25:10 +1000<br>
> > Rob Thomas <<a href="mailto:xrobau@gmail.com">xrobau@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> > > As an interested bystander, something that ac may not realise is<br>
> > > that the first thing that pops into MY mind when I see that (and<br>
> > > possibly a few other people) is that they're referring to<br>
> > > 'Anonymous Coward', which is used on Slashdot when someone does<br>
> > > not wish to identify themselves.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > That may not be a deliberate choice on ac's behalf, but maybe<br>
> > > that's why their vague comments and lack of actual information<br>
> > > may be rubbing people the wrong way.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > --Rob<br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > > On 26 April 2016 at 13:11, Chris Debenham <<a href="mailto:chris@adebenham.com">chris@adebenham.com</a>><br>
> > > wrote:<br>
> > ><br>
> > > > I'm afraid that nothing you presented makes clear your<br>
> > > > skill/tech background - or even what your name is.<br>
> > > > That you haven't even answered these questions when directly<br>
> > > > asked erodes any good-will you may have had.<br>
> > > > I had hoped to give you the benefit of the doubt (assuming<br>
> > > > english as second language) but your avoidance of even basic<br>
> > > > questions and inability to provide anything backing your words<br>
> > > > leads me to no longer hold out hope for that.<br>
> > > > Please remember that you are talking to a group of people who<br>
> > > > hold linux and open source as greatly important. There are a<br>
> > > > large number of people with high technical skills and so would<br>
> > > > expect interactions on such a core topic (email privacy,<br>
> > > > control and handling is very important) to be done at such a<br>
> > > > level as to dissuade any fears. If you ever decide to come<br>
> > > > forward with a proper proposal then people may indeed be<br>
> > > > interested (maybe not for linux australia lists - but perhaps<br>
> > > > others) - but based on what you have provided (or not provided)<br>
> > > > so far - the level of evidence would need to be greatly<br>
> > > > increased before anyone is likely to be interested.<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > Regards,<br>
> > > > Chris<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > On 25 April 2016 at 23:13, ac <<a href="mailto:ac@main.me">ac@main.me</a>> wrote:<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > >> On Mon, 25 Apr 2016 22:17:04 +1000<br>
> > > >> Chris Debenham <<a href="mailto:chris@adebenham.com">chris@adebenham.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> > > >> > Andre,<br>
> > > >> > Perhaps if you wish to be taken seriously you should<br>
> > > >> > introduce yourself more fully.<br>
> > > >> > Explain who you are, what your technical background is,<br>
> > > >> > links to source you have written /contributed to, things<br>
> > > >> > like that. By showing a background in related development it<br>
> > > >> > would lend credence to your words.<br>
> > > >> ><br>
> > > >> > -- Please excuse my brevity as this email was sent from my<br>
> > > >> > microwave<br>
> > > >><br>
> > > >> bleh, maybe I should have done that before I typed so much...<br>
> > > >> from what i typed my skill/tech background should be clear to<br>
> > > >> my peers and I am not happy about being called a spammer,<br>
> > > >> twice. The second time around even an amateur spammer,<br>
> > > >> whahahahaha<br>
> > > >><br>
> > > >> I think that I have wasted enough of the lists bandwidth - If<br>
> > > >> anyone is keen on chatting with me about working together,<br>
> > > >> please mail me off list<br>
> > > >><br>
> > > >> otherwise I do apologize for wasting your bits<br>
> > > >><br>
> > > >> --<br>
> > > >> your brevity is cool, i like your microwave, mine only makes<br>
> > > >> popcorn, still trying to teach it to mail...<br>
> > > >><br>
> > > >><br>
> > > >><br>
> > > >><br>
> > > >><br>
> > > >><br>
> > > >><br>
> > > >><br>
> > > >> > On 25 Apr 2016 9:40 PM, "ac" <<a href="mailto:ac@main.me">ac@main.me</a>> wrote:<br>
> > > >> ><br>
> > > >> > On Mon, 25 Apr 2016 20:44:59 +0930<br>
> > > >> > "David Lloyd" <<a href="mailto:lloy0076@adam.com.au">lloy0076@adam.com.au</a>> wrote:<br>
> > > >> > > Well,<br>
> > > >> > > > Dude, seriously, you should rather top post...<br>
> > > >> > > Really? No.<br>
> > > >> > > > You posted: (i think?)<br>
> > > >> > > > that i did not read what Noel said? (i did)<br>
> > > >> > > My apologies - to be more precise, then, comprehend.<br>
> > > >> > ><br>
> > > >> > in which way then? you simply saying that hardly explains<br>
> > > >> > anything... (or makes it so) I do understand that you believe<br>
> > > >> > that, but lets move from belief to fact? So, simply say what<br>
> > > >> > it is that is not understood/comprehended.<br>
> > > >> ><br>
> > > >> > > > that I am redistributing spam assassin (i am not - i do<br>
> > > >> > > > not use it) that I am an amateur spammer :)<br>
> > > >> > > You're describing a product which sounds very like it.<br>
> > > >> > ><br>
> > > >> > no, actually not. see, so you can learn something<br>
> > > >> ><br>
> > > >> > even from a vague amateur spammer :)<br>
> > > >> ><br>
> > > >> > SA works by 'judging' an actual received spam - and a dnsbl<br>
> > > >> > rejects spam before your email server receives it as the<br>
> > > >> > sender is blacklisted (or accepts email on a whitelist basis<br>
> > > >> > - my system does that for ipv6)<br>
> > > >> ><br>
> > > >> > there are various dnsbl<br>
> > > >> > <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_DNS_blacklists" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_DNS_blacklists</a><br>
> > > >> ><br>
> > > >> > SA<br>
> > > >> ><br>
> > <a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=what+is+spamassasin&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.google.com/search?q=what+is+spamassasin&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8</a><br>
> > > >> ><br>
> > > >> > > > spammer 101 is vague details and appeals to emotion?<br>
> > > >> > > No, it implies you don't know what you're talking about;<br>
> > > >> > > you haven't really proved me wrong.<br>
> > > >> > ><br>
> > > >> ><br>
> > > >> > really?<br>
> > > >> ><br>
> > > >> > > > any linux techie with some experience can read /<br>
> > > >> > > > understand what i am saying instead of a vague<br>
> > > >> > > > accusation - why do you not say exactly what<br>
> > > >> > > is<br>
> > > >> > > > vague to you so I can explain it better ?<br>
> > > >> > > Others have done so already - why would I bother to do so<br>
> > > >> > > myself when you clearly don't comprehend what they've said<br>
> > > >> > > to you?<br>
> > > >> > ><br>
> > > >> ><br>
> > > >> > not sure what to say to all that. I guess, the best answer is<br>
> > > >> > that my subject is not belief or emotion or anything<br>
> > > >> > vague :) - it is science<br>
> > > >> ><br>
> > > >> > you either are an expert in your field - or you are just an<br>
> > > >> > expert - everyone these days is an expert<br>
> > > >> ><br>
> > > >> > Maybe spend the time and re-read everything that I have<br>
> > > >> > written and then if you like I can teach/help/explain<br>
> > > >> > something to you - but be exact in what you do not<br>
> > > >> > understand as the subjects are rather involved and many on<br>
> > > >> > the list probably know the basics already<br>
> > > >> ><br>
> > > >> > As this is a Linux list - with many many programmers and well<br>
> > > >> > skilled Linux sysadmins - I am very sure we can all quickly<br>
> > > >> > figure out what is what :)<br>
> > > >> ><br>
> > > >> ><br>
> > > >> ><br>
> > > >> ><br>
> > > >> ><br>
> > > >> ><br>
> > > >> ><br>
> > > >> ><br>
> > > >> ><br>
> > > >> ><br>
> > > >> > > DSL<br>
> > > >> > ><br>
> > > >> > ><br>
> > > >> ><br>
> > > >> > _______________________________________________<br>
> > > >> > linux-aus mailing list<br>
> > > >> > <a href="mailto:linux-aus@lists.linux.org.au">linux-aus@lists.linux.org.au</a><br>
> > > >> > <a href="http://lists.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/linux-aus" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/linux-aus</a><br>
> > > >><br>
> > > >> _______________________________________________<br>
> > > >> linux-aus mailing list<br>
> > > >> <a href="mailto:linux-aus@lists.linux.org.au">linux-aus@lists.linux.org.au</a><br>
> > > >> <a href="http://lists.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/linux-aus" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/linux-aus</a><br>
> > > >><br>
> > > ><br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > _______________________________________________<br>
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