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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 10:27, Luke John
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<pre wrap="">Hopefully someone will be able to give a more expert opinion, however
even on a conservative reading this section appears to have at least
the following two outcomes.
Governments are unable to set open source as a procurement requirement.</pre>
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No, I don't think clause 1 says that.<br>
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It says that if you make mass-market software and want to sell it in
my territory then I can not require you to disclose the source code.<br>
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It does not prevent me mandating that for a
project/department/government I will only select open source
software.<br>
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In other words - if you want to sell closed source software in my
territory then good luck to you, but I don't have to buy it.<br>
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Governments are unable to require certain software be open to
inspection by public or government.</pre>
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Clause 2 says exactly the opposite - if the software is not mass
market (i.e. you wrote it just for me), or if it is used for
critical infrastructure, them the government can mandate access to
source code.<br>
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Cheers,<br>
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DavidP<br>
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Whilst the second isn't something I understand to be a current
practice, it is certainly something that has been called for by parts
of our community. With the recent VW scandal it has also attracted
the wider publics attention and there's been encouraging discussion of
it.
Kind Regards,
Luke John
On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 6:10 AM, Tennessee Leeuwenburg
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<pre wrap="">I'm not sure that a face-value reading actually tells us what is going on
here. My reading of point one is that it doesn't actually refer to
open-source software, but rather to protecting proprietary closed-source
software. Is anyone on this list able to give a more expert overview of what
these clauses mean?
On 6 November 2015 at 00:38, Luke John <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:email@lukejohn.me"><email@lukejohn.me></a> wrote:
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The final text of the TPP has been officially released
I'd like to request LA to put out an official statement opposing the
following section.
## Article 14.17: Source Code
1. No Party shall require the transfer of, or access to, source code
of software owned by a person of another Party, as a condition for the
import, distribution, sale or use of such software, or of products
containing such software, in its territory.
2. For the purposes of this Article, software subject to paragraph 1
is limited to mass-market software or products containing such
software and does not include software used for critical
infrastructure.
3. Nothing in this Article shall preclude:
(a) the inclusion or implementation of terms and conditions related
to the provision of source code in commercially negotiated contracts;
or
(b) a Party from requiring the modification of source code of
software necessary for that software to comply with laws or
regulations which are not inconsistent with this Agreement.
4. This Article shall not be construed to affect requirements that
relate to patent applications or granted patents, including any orders
made by a judicial authority in relation to patent disputes, subject
to safeguards against unauthorised disclosure under the law or
practice of a Party.
Kind Regards,
Luke
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