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    Hey,<br>
    <br>
    So I think there are a lot of benefits to a fully fledged CRM.<br>
    <br>
    However, memberdb is in desperate need of an update. If we have
    nobody volunteering to implement a CRM type system for Linux
    Australia, and we do indeed still have volunteers looking at
    improving our membership management platform, then I think we should
    take them up on that kind offer as it'll be a great improvement.<br>
    <br>
    An update to memberdb will also better allow us to email our members
    rather than relying on a mailing list. That in of itself is a giant
    improvement.<br>
    <br>
    Cheers,<br>
    Josh<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 14/06/15 11:47, Neill Cox wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CAD87AHWvjytpNZS4u6eUHXH3wjKrV+BZ=1djVrB44-BXzVrTEQ@mail.gmail.com"
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      <div dir="ltr">I was one of the people who volunteered to work on
        updating memberdb, but I have not really done much beyond some
        initial investigation.
        <div><br>
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        <div>I am willing to do some work on memberdb, but I have very
          little in the way of PHP or Drupal skills.</div>
        <div><br>
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        <div>My initial plan was to provide a REST API to the existing
          database, with a back end written in python, probably building
          on top of flask[1].</div>
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        <div>If that work would be useful to the council, I'd be happy
          to contribute. If CiviCRM is the direction the the council
          decided to go I don't think I will be able to contribute much
          to the effort.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>I too had been a bit optimistic about just how much spare
          time I would actually have, so I have to apologise for not
          progressing this faster.</div>
        <div><br>
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        <div>Whatever LA decides I'm happy to offer whatever help I can,
          but to be honest if it's Drupal/CiviCRM that's largely going
          to consist of best wishes :)</div>
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        <div>Cheers,</div>
        <div>Neill</div>
        <div><br>
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        <div>[1] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="http://flask.pocoo.org/">http://flask.pocoo.org/</a></div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 8:27 AM, Kathy
          Reid <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:kathy@kathyreid.id.au" target="_blank">kathy@kathyreid.id.au</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
            .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Fair call.<br>
            <br>
            IMHO, patching MemberDB is not where LA should be focussing
            effort - I strongly believe LA needs a full CRM like CiviCRM
            [1].<br>
            All good organisations need different thinking to catalyse
            direction ;-)<br>
            <br>
            So, I think we probably need a strategic call from LA here -
            patch MemberDB or go for something like CiviCRM?<br>
            <br>
            My recommendation is that LA is now large enough, and has
            big enough communications needs that it makes sense to go
            for something like CiviCRM. We don't homebrew the website
            anymore - we use an established platform. It no longer makes
            sense to homebrew the membership platform. CiviCRM also sits
            on top of Drupal, meaning that platform change at the
            website level wouldn't be needed. But Mikal is right, this
            would need to be scoped - and it's a big piece of work - but
            one in the long run I think is very valuable.<br>
            <br>
            My availability is pretty shot until Feb 9th 2016.<br>
            <br>
            [1] <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://civicrm.org/"
              rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://civicrm.org/</a>
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              <div class="h5"><br>
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                On 14/06/15 07:49, Michael Still wrote:<br>
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                  .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                  So, my understanding was that we offered in the AGM to
                  update memberdb<br>
                  to not be quite so bad. That got turned into a
                  replacement CRM<br>
                  project, which meant several of the people involved no
                  longer felt<br>
                  they had the skills to actually progress the effort.
                  We have therefore<br>
                  stalled.<br>
                  <br>
                  To be completely honest, I feel like I mis-estimated
                  how much spare<br>
                  time I'd have this year, and I don't think I have the
                  bandwidth to<br>
                  provide a meaningful contribution to this effort. So,
                  a subcommittee<br>
                  is a good idea, but I feel we might need to go and
                  work out who would<br>
                  be able to serve on it first.<br>
                  <br>
                  Michael<br>
                  <br>
                  On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 2:52 PM, Kathy Reid <<a
                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:kathy@kathyreid.id.au" target="_blank">kathy@kathyreid.id.au</a>>
                  wrote:<br>
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                    .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                    There was some talk a few months ago [1] of having a
                    Membership Subcommittee<br>
                    for LA, looking at replacing or enhancing MemberDB.
                    This was a great move<br>
                    forward - MemberDB is end of life.<br>
                    Has this progressed at all and are folks ihere
                    nterested?<br>
                    <br>
                    If so I will formally propose a motion to Council to
                    form this Subcommittee.<br>
                    <br>
                    Kind regards,<br>
                    Kathy<br>
                    <br>
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                    [1] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                      rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.linux.org.au/pipermail/linux-aus/2015-February/022032.html</a><br>
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          <div dir="ltr">Neill Cox
            <div>Ingenious Software</div>
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