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    Hi Bianca,<br>
    <br>
    Thanks for your feedback :-). Please see inline.<br>
    <br>
    Cheers,<br>
    Josh<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 09/04/14 20:14, Bianca Gibson wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CAOZrvMOnNktY78_GobZm0DHV2e1aZUeA4UCO1pb9fFMGNUoxuA@mail.gmail.com"
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      <div dir="ltr">On 8 April 2014 23:04, Linux Australia Secretary <span
          dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="mailto:secretary@linux.org.au" target="_blank">secretary@linux.org.au</a>&gt;</span>
        wrote:<br>
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                <p dir="ltr"
                  style="line-height:1.15;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span>Joshua

                    welcomed all members of Council and thanked them for
                    giving up their time for the weekend, and also
                    thanked the members of Council for their service on
                    Council. <br>
                  </span></p>
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            <div><br>
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            <div>I also thank you all.<br>
              <br>
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                    <p dir="ltr"
                      style="line-height:1.15;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span>Undertake

                        more outreach to university students</span></p>
                  </li>
                </ul>
              </div>
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            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>Definitely an area for improvement.<br>
            </div>
            <div>&nbsp;</div>
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                  <li dir="ltr">
                    <p dir="ltr"
                      style="line-height:1.15;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span>Better

                        document roles and responsibilities of Council
                        members to aid succession planning</span></p>
                  </li>
                </ul>
              </div>
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            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>That would be useful, particularly for bringing in more
              people. I think OCM would be hard to document because so
              much of it is doing whatever needs doing and the time can
              go up and down a lot. I sometimes did very little and did
              heaps on some of my uni breaks.<br>
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            <div>&nbsp;</div>
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                  <li dir="ltr">
                    <p dir="ltr"
                      style="line-height:1.15;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span>Become

                        more involved in lobbying activities such as
                        submissions to the TPP. </span></p>
                  </li>
                </ul>
              </div>
            </blockquote>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>I'd like to see more of that. Since council only
              sometimes has the expertise, it may be good for council to
              organise community members to lobby, rather than doing it
              themselves. Similar to how we did the TPP submission, but
              preferably nudged along quicker.<br>
            </div>
            <div>&nbsp;</div>
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                  <li dir="ltr">
                    <p dir="ltr"
                      style="line-height:1.15;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span>Undertake

                        succession planning for Council 2015</span></p>
                  </li>
                </ul>
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            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>We've been really weak on this in the past. <br>
            </div>
            <div>&nbsp;</div>
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                <span>Council revisited the question of whether Linux
                  Australia should charge for membership, and how
                  frequently we should do expiry.</span></div>
            </blockquote>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>By my reading council's main interest is to drive
              members to take an active interest and participate more?
              Is it also intended to be a substantial revenue stream?<br>
            </div>
            <div>If charging more than a small, token amount I strongly
              recommend there be a student discount. I'd also like to
              see pensioner and low income discount.<br>
            </div>
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    <br>
    If it wasn't clear in the minutes, while the council discussed the
    options it was decided that the membership model would not change
    (ie no fees will be introduced).<br>
    <br>
    <blockquote
cite="mid:CAOZrvMOnNktY78_GobZm0DHV2e1aZUeA4UCO1pb9fFMGNUoxuA@mail.gmail.com"
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            <div>&nbsp;</div>
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                <span></span>
                <p dir="ltr"
                  style="line-height:1.15;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span>The

                    concept of LA&#8217;s relevance over time was discussed.</span></p>
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            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>I think we will continue to be relevant. <br>
            </div>
            <div>Conferences are the main thing we do.<br>
            </div>
            <div>I've heard some people questioning the value of
              attending conferences with easy access to information
              online. However, I think if you asked people 'what is LCA
              to you?', 'what is pycon au to you?' a lot of the
              responses would revolve around people, community,
              networking, socialising. That can't be replaced with
              online content. <br>
              Since our events are very community oriented I think they
              are much less likely to become irrelevant than most tech
              conferences. <br>
              I do look forward to the content, but it's the people that
              get me really excited about the conference.<br>
            </div>
            <div>&nbsp;</div>
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                  <br>
                </p>
                <span></span>
                <p dir="ltr"
                  style="line-height:1.15;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span>Council

                    discussed whether our values are relevant. </span></p>
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            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>Yes.<br>
            </div>
            <div>&nbsp;</div>
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                <p dir="ltr"
                  style="line-height:1.15;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span>Comment
                    was made around whether &#8216;privacy&#8217; should be added to
                    the values given the rise of concerns around
                    surveillance and data collection. &nbsp;</span></p>
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            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>Hm, maybe.<br>
            </div>
            <div>&nbsp;</div>
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                <span></span><span>Council discussed whether we should
                  just move a motion to put the Code of Conduct in place
                  for mailing lists, as it provides a clear path forward
                  for mailing list conduct.</span></div>
            </blockquote>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>I think there should be some policy around mailing list
              conduct shown to all list members. We also need to iron
              out the internal procedures for dealing with incidents,
              we're not good at it.<br>
            </div>
            <div>&nbsp;</div>
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                <span></span>
                <p dir="ltr"
                  style="line-height:1.15;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span>Council

                    discussed at length whether the Mailing List Policy
                    should have a clause stating that off list
                    communications should remain private. </span></p>
              </div>
            </blockquote>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>I think off list communications in response to or
              relating to content on the mailing list are within scope.<br>
            </div>
            <div>&nbsp;</div>
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                <span></span>
                <p dir="ltr"
                  style="line-height:1.15;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span>Council

                    considered whether there should be community
                    Moderators for the mailing lists, and whether the
                    Moderators would have to be members of Council.</span></p>
              </div>
            </blockquote>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>Moderators need to be trusted community members (as
              judged by council), but I see no need for them to be
              council members.<br>
            </div>
            <div>&nbsp;</div>
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              <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> <br>
                <span></span>
                <p dir="ltr"
                  style="line-height:1.15;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span>MOTION

                  </span><span>by Joshua Hesketh that</span></p>
                <p dir="ltr"
                  style="line-height:1.15;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span>a
                    new mailing list be created called <a
                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:policies@linux.org.au"
                      target="_blank">policies@linux.org.au</a></span></p>
                <p dir="ltr"
                  style="line-height:1.15;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span>to

                    which policy discussions may be referred. </span></p>
                <p dir="ltr"
                  style="line-height:1.15;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span>SECONDED

                  </span><span>by Christopher Neugebauer</span></p>
                <p dir="ltr"
                  style="line-height:1.15;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span>CARRIED

                  </span><span>unanimously</span></p>
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            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>Please publicise this wider and more clearly than in
              the middle of giant long minutes.<br>
            </div>
            <div>&nbsp;</div>
          </div>
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    <br>
    Correct, this is the motion, we haven't fully prepared the list for
    use (although it does exist and I see no reason for people not to
    subscribe). Once we have finished our list code-of-conduct we'll put
    this list into fuller use.<br>
    <br>
    <blockquote
cite="mid:CAOZrvMOnNktY78_GobZm0DHV2e1aZUeA4UCO1pb9fFMGNUoxuA@mail.gmail.com"
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              <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> <br>
                <span></span><span>MOTION</span><span> by Christopher
                  Neugebauer that financial assistance programs such as
                  the Regional delegates Programme for LCA be moved to
                  the budget of the relevant conference to administer</span>
                <p dir="ltr"
                  style="line-height:1.15;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span>SECONDED

                  </span><span>Hugh Blemings</span></p>
                <p dir="ltr"
                  style="line-height:1.15;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span>CARRIED

                  </span><span>unanimously</span></p>
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            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>The RDP was renamed to Linux Australia travel grants.<br>
            </div>
            <div>I'm glad this has been moved, I found myself
              considering the grants to be part of the conf budget in my
              head when it wasn't in the books.<br>
            </div>
            <div>&nbsp;</div>
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                <br>
                <span></span><span>It is likely that there will be
                  submissions called for in regard</span> to...<br>
              </div>
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            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>Council should be open to, and make it clear that they
              are open to, collaborating with community members to make
              submissions or lobby in other ways around relevant causes.<br>
              <br>
            </div>
            <div>Thanks for all your work council, you're awesome!<br>
              <br>
            </div>
            <div>Cheers,<br>
              Bianca<br>
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