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Hi Bianca,<br>
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Thanks for your feedback :-). Please see inline.<br>
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Cheers,<br>
Josh<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 09/04/14 20:14, Bianca Gibson wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">On 8 April 2014 23:04, Linux Australia Secretary <span
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style="line-height:1.15;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span>Joshua
welcomed all members of Council and thanked them for
giving up their time for the weekend, and also
thanked the members of Council for their service on
Council. <br>
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<div>I also thank you all.<br>
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style="line-height:1.15;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span>Undertake
more outreach to university students</span></p>
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<div>Definitely an area for improvement.<br>
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document roles and responsibilities of Council
members to aid succession planning</span></p>
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<div>That would be useful, particularly for bringing in more
people. I think OCM would be hard to document because so
much of it is doing whatever needs doing and the time can
go up and down a lot. I sometimes did very little and did
heaps on some of my uni breaks.<br>
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style="line-height:1.15;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span>Become
more involved in lobbying activities such as
submissions to the TPP. </span></p>
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<div>I'd like to see more of that. Since council only
sometimes has the expertise, it may be good for council to
organise community members to lobby, rather than doing it
themselves. Similar to how we did the TPP submission, but
preferably nudged along quicker.<br>
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succession planning for Council 2015</span></p>
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<div>We've been really weak on this in the past. <br>
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<span>Council revisited the question of whether Linux
Australia should charge for membership, and how
frequently we should do expiry.</span></div>
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<div>By my reading council's main interest is to drive
members to take an active interest and participate more?
Is it also intended to be a substantial revenue stream?<br>
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<div>If charging more than a small, token amount I strongly
recommend there be a student discount. I'd also like to
see pensioner and low income discount.<br>
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If it wasn't clear in the minutes, while the council discussed the
options it was decided that the membership model would not change
(ie no fees will be introduced).<br>
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concept of LA’s relevance over time was discussed.</span></p>
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<div>I think we will continue to be relevant. <br>
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<div>Conferences are the main thing we do.<br>
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<div>I've heard some people questioning the value of
attending conferences with easy access to information
online. However, I think if you asked people 'what is LCA
to you?', 'what is pycon au to you?' a lot of the
responses would revolve around people, community,
networking, socialising. That can't be replaced with
online content. <br>
Since our events are very community oriented I think they
are much less likely to become irrelevant than most tech
conferences. <br>
I do look forward to the content, but it's the people that
get me really excited about the conference.<br>
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discussed whether our values are relevant. </span></p>
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<div>Yes.<br>
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was made around whether ‘privacy’ should be added to
the values given the rise of concerns around
surveillance and data collection. </span></p>
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<div>Hm, maybe.<br>
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<span></span><span>Council discussed whether we should
just move a motion to put the Code of Conduct in place
for mailing lists, as it provides a clear path forward
for mailing list conduct.</span></div>
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<div>I think there should be some policy around mailing list
conduct shown to all list members. We also need to iron
out the internal procedures for dealing with incidents,
we're not good at it.<br>
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style="line-height:1.15;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span>Council
discussed at length whether the Mailing List Policy
should have a clause stating that off list
communications should remain private. </span></p>
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<div>I think off list communications in response to or
relating to content on the mailing list are within scope.<br>
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considered whether there should be community
Moderators for the mailing lists, and whether the
Moderators would have to be members of Council.</span></p>
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<div>Moderators need to be trusted community members (as
judged by council), but I see no need for them to be
council members.<br>
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</span><span>by Joshua Hesketh that</span></p>
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style="line-height:1.15;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span>a
new mailing list be created called <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:policies@linux.org.au"
target="_blank">policies@linux.org.au</a></span></p>
<p dir="ltr"
style="line-height:1.15;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span>to
which policy discussions may be referred. </span></p>
<p dir="ltr"
style="line-height:1.15;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span>SECONDED
</span><span>by Christopher Neugebauer</span></p>
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style="line-height:1.15;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span>CARRIED
</span><span>unanimously</span></p>
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<div>Please publicise this wider and more clearly than in
the middle of giant long minutes.<br>
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Correct, this is the motion, we haven't fully prepared the list for
use (although it does exist and I see no reason for people not to
subscribe). Once we have finished our list code-of-conduct we'll put
this list into fuller use.<br>
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<span></span><span>MOTION</span><span> by Christopher
Neugebauer that financial assistance programs such as
the Regional delegates Programme for LCA be moved to
the budget of the relevant conference to administer</span>
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</span><span>Hugh Blemings</span></p>
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style="line-height:1.15;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span>CARRIED
</span><span>unanimously</span></p>
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<div>The RDP was renamed to Linux Australia travel grants.<br>
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<div>I'm glad this has been moved, I found myself
considering the grants to be part of the conf budget in my
head when it wasn't in the books.<br>
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<span></span><span>It is likely that there will be
submissions called for in regard</span> to...<br>
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<div>Council should be open to, and make it clear that they
are open to, collaborating with community members to make
submissions or lobby in other ways around relevant causes.<br>
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<div>Thanks for all your work council, you're awesome!<br>
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<div>Cheers,<br>
Bianca<br>
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