<div dir="ltr"><div>Yes, I clearly did send that email too early. Sorry.<br><br></div><div>However saying that "oh but one woman may or may not have had it worse at some point" is no justification.<br><br>I can not find any instances of women being harrassed on a mailing list, unless you count what Linus did in july of this year [1] as harrassment. And yes, i did look through Geek-womanism.</div>
<div><br>[1]<a href="http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/07/linus-torvalds-defends-his-right-to-shame-linux-kernel-developers/">http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/07/linus-torvalds-defends-his-right-to-shame-linux-kernel-developers/</a><br>
<br></div><div>Regards,<br>Luke.<br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 12:13 AM, Paul Wayper <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:paulway@mabula.net" target="_blank">paulway@mabula.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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>> This, and much much worse, has happened<br>
> to women in IT.<br>
><br>
> Show me one instance of a woman being publicly shamed because she has a<br>
> different opinion about policy on a IT Mailing List. Most mailing lists<br>
> are public & have records so i'm sure you can show me... oh.. you can't?<br>
><br>
> This faux anecdotal evidence BS is just that, BS. THIS is what has<br>
> happened, it's not justifiable just because you can come up with some<br>
> fairyland situation in which a woman is publicly shamed for having a<br>
> different opinion on a policy.<br>
><br>
> Seriously. "oh but in my imagination im SUUUUUREEE its happened to<br>
> women toooo" is horrible justifcation.<br>
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</div>Dear Luke,<br>
<br>
Perhaps you would like to do the research yourself?<br>
<br>
After all, the Geek Feminism Wiki has lots of documented cases of women<br>
being harrassed in public forums. The CLUG list has had a number of similar<br>
incidents. And I've personally seen this kind of sexist treatment of women<br>
at CLUG meetings.<br>
<br>
I'm disappointed that you feel this one thing deserves sarcasm and outright<br>
dismissal because you personally can't think of an example. I had hoped you<br>
would realise that denigrating people on the Linux Australia list for<br>
disagreeing with you doesn't help prove anything.<br>
<br>
Hope this helps,<br>
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Paul<br>
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