<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; "><br><br>On 17/12/2012, at 3:29 AM, David Newall <<a href="mailto:davidn@davidnewall.com">davidn@davidnewall.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; "><div><span>On 16/12/12 09:51, James Polley wrote:</span><br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> It is a matter of great disappointment to me that the previous council</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> mindfully and explicitly chose to discard the old constitution without</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> including electronic voting at elections in the new one [...]</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>You're correct in saying that the current constitution does not</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>explicitly list electronic voting as a voting mechanism. It also</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>doesn't explicitly mention voting by show of hands; voting by voice;</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>voting by division; secret votes on ballot papers etc.</span><br></blockquote><span></span><br><span>James, as I recall you were a great proponent of the constitution change, hence it's a surprise that you don't seem to have read it. In particular, voting by show of hands is explicitly permitted, as is voting by postal ballot. </span></div></blockquote><div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; "><br></div><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;">Ah, section 30 (</span><a href="https://www.linux.org.au/constitution#Making_of_decisions">https://www.linux.org.au/constitution#Making_of_decisions</a>).<span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;"> My bad, I couldn't find that when i was searching for it yesterday.</span><div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; "><br></div><div><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;">The voting methods it lists are voting by show of hands, and by "</span><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">writing on paper; communication by electronic transmission, including facsimile and email; and submission of electronic forms in any format determined by the committee."</span></div><div><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">I think we're covered.</span></div><div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; "><br></div><div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; "><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>I don't expect you to understand this (your fascination with logic relating to 100% less 26% leaves less than 75% really lowered my expectations of you.)</span><br></div></blockquote><div><br></div>I'm fascinated with why you're obsessing over 75%, as though it has some relevance to the name preference 'election'.</div><div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; "><br><blockquote type="cite"><div><blockquote type="cite"><span>If the voting method needs to be explicitly mentioned in the constitution, we're up</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>a certain creek without a paddle.</span><br></blockquote><span></span><br><span>Correct. And thanks, in great part to you, we are, well not without a paddle, but the paddle is going to be rather more expensive than the old one. (Again, James, don't strain your neuron over this.)</span><br></div></blockquote></div></body></html>