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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-AU link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hi,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>What I think is really happening is that Linux Australia is set to become a subcommittee of another organisation that is going to be handed all the assets of Linux Australia on a platter.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I still think there has been no valid/strong argument for the name change. I think the arguments being put forward are specious at best.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>If it is a problem explaining to potential sponsors, then put together a document that explains the relationship with Linux Australia and include that in the sponsorship kit.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I am not going to bore you with details, but a quick investigation shows that many of the conferences held each year in Australia require cheques made out to a name other than the actual name of the conference itself.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>It appears to me there is another agenda here, but no one will actually come out and say what it is.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Gary<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> linux-aus-bounces@lists.linux.org.au [mailto:linux-aus-bounces@lists.linux.org.au] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Michael Chesterton<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, 20 July 2012 4:34 AM<br><b>To:</b> Linux Australia<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Linux-aus] LA Name Change - the process<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 3:34 AM, Chris Neugebauer <<a href="mailto:chrisjrn@gmail.com" target="_blank">chrisjrn@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Indeed, this option was mooted in the previous centi-thread. There<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>are two counterarguments here:<br><br>1) Such a method would generate an unreasonable paperwork burden upon<br>the council, given that this approach would need to be made available<br>to every LA-run conference. If it's not offered to every conference,<br>then it strikes me as counterproductive.<br><br>2) It's counterproductive, as we'll then lose the brand recognition<br>that comes from multiple conferences being run under the same banner.<br>If PyCon AU is run by PyCon AU, then selling e.g. LCA onto PyCon's<br>sponsors becomes a more difficult task, rather than an easier one as<br>it currently is.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Create one business name, ie FOSCAN or whatever, and write all the<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>cheques from that.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>It's definitely the latter, but it's not an insignificant number. I<br>would say that about half of our sponsors are new to LA, and I've had<br>to explain the purpose of LA to all of these.<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I think you'll be swapping explaining what linux asutralia is with what<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>foscan is. The good thing about linux australia is it's sort enough<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>to say the full name, I can't even remember what foscan stands for.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>People will more likely say foscan rather than the six words,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>and foscan is meaningless.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>(I'm just using foscan as an example of a potential new name)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Lastly I think the subject is miss leading, LA isn't really being renamed,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>as I understand it, it's being reorganised, LA will still exist and a new name<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>will be created.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>So why not put foscan under la, and if the majority see it's working well,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>swap it so la comes under foscan.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></body></html>