I would support the notion of a gold coin fee for the CD-R. It helps that it is not just thrown away as worthless, but because people paid $1, there is additional incentive to actually use it. Free CDs usually end up in the bin.<br>
<br>Silvia.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Jon 'maddog' Hall <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:maddog@li.org">maddog@li.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Hello,<br>
<br>
I like the idea of the pre-printed CD-R.<br>
<br>
For those who argue that a lot of people have broadband, there are still<br>
a lot of people who just have dial-up. And you can give the person a<br>
choice of pulling it down themselves, or taking a CD-R.<br>
<br>
For other events, you can ask for a donation for the CD-R. After all,<br>
the software is "free", but the CD-R is not. This gets people to<br>
understand and re-inforce the idea that they too can duplicate the CD-R<br>
and "pass it forward", but they have the right to charge a modest amount<br>
to cover costs.<br>
<br>
Or you can offer a pre-printed CD-RW to the person, to allow them to<br>
download the image you gave them, then replace that software later with<br>
more up-to-date software.<br>
<br>
Or you can offer a pre-printed DVD-R/RW to the person, putting multiple<br>
distributions (albeit at more transfer time) on the DVD to give them<br>
choice of distributions....and ask for a donation to cover the costs.<br>
<br>
Warmest regards,<br>
<font color="#888888"><br>
maddog<br>
</font><div class="im"><br>
<br>
> Every year, LA is asked to do a run of varying numbers of Open CD's<br>
> (or<br>
> equivalent) for the SFD events as part of our yearly team assistance<br>
> (along with provide PLI coverage, etc). However, it's always a bit of<br>
> a<br>
> stab in the dark about the exact numbers needed for each team. An<br>
> example was last year, where the initial figure of 50,000 CDs was<br>
> raised, which was scaled back to 8,000 CDs, resulting in some teams<br>
> having their initial request doubled (or in some cases quadrupled),<br>
> and<br>
> getting far more than was needed for a SFD run.<br>
><br>
</div><div class="im">> Some of these groups still have boxes of in various people's lounge<br>
> rooms, garages, etc, which are branded for SFD 2008, which are now<br>
> heading towards landfill, a not very ecologically sustainable<br>
> practice.<br>
><br>
</div><div><div></div><div class="h5">> The LA Council spent a fair bit of time discussing this issue at our<br>
> Face to Face meeting earlier in the year, and came up with a<br>
> solution,<br>
> which this email is outlining. Linux Australia will order up to 2500<br>
> Blank, Professionally (ie - CMYK Silk Screen) printed CD's with a<br>
> Generic(ish) artwork for use by each LUG *or* SFD teams to distribute<br>
> open software to members of the public. I'll elaborate more on the<br>
> artwork below.<br>
><br>
> These CD's will be provided blank to LUGS for then to burn with<br>
> software<br>
> or a pre-built ISO (opendisc, etc) of FOSS software for events as<br>
> they<br>
> need. Whilst some people argue that a blank CD is next to useless as<br>
> it<br>
> still needs to be burnt with data, taking time, a LUG or SFD team<br>
> could<br>
> knock over burning 1500 Disks over the course of a planning meeting<br>
> or<br>
> two (we are all having planning meetings, right?), and then burn more<br>
> on<br>
> the day as they get mobbed and run low. As a LUG runs low, Linux<br>
> Australia will order a "topup" run of CDs to allow these to be an "on<br>
> going" resource for LUG's to use at things like Install/fix-fests,<br>
> cake<br>
> stalls, etc.<br>
><br>
> I know at least one person in a LUGComms meeting has raised concerns<br>
> that the artwork will be "Sharpie Quality" ( ie - each CD scrawled on<br>
> with magic marker), but it is intended that the artwork will be<br>
> professionally screen printed in CMYK onto the CD's by a<br>
> duplication/printing firm, but with a generic title (ie - "The Open<br>
> software disc", etc), meaning that the media can service a number of<br>
> uses over the year, while still maintaining a polished and effective<br>
> appearance.<br>
><br>
> What we would like is you, the Linux Australia community, to send<br>
> through some ideas or drafts for the CD artwork. Go wild, but keep in<br>
> mind it needs to fit a normal 8cm CD, and contain a brief explanation<br>
> of<br>
> what we're trying to do and achieve. For those who may not have seen<br>
> the<br>
> artwork for last years SFD run, it can be seen at<br>
> <a href="http://mabula.net/sfd-2008-cd-label.png" target="_blank">http://mabula.net/sfd-2008-cd-label.png</a><br>
><br>
> As always, we want to hear your feedback, so please let us know if<br>
> you<br>
> think this is tha bomb, or is just bomb, if you'd all prefer year<br>
> specific CD's run off each year with a fixed content, etc.<br>
><br>
> Thanks<br>
><br>
> Steve<br>
<br>
<br>
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