[Linux-aus] Announcing Everything Open - Conference 2023
David
david_crosswell at telaman.net.au
Thu Oct 13 13:02:16 AEDT 2022
Thank you, Russell, for that clarification.
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David Crosswell
Telaman Consultancies
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On Thu, Oct 13, 2022 at 11:55, Russell Stuart via linux-aus
<linux-aus at lists.linux.org.au> wrote:
> On 13/10/22 09:29, Craige McWhirter via linux-aus wrote:
>> At this juncture it looks to me like LA comittee and the community
>> have
>> formally parted ways?
>
> I'm responding to this even though I will probably be frowned upon by
> my fellow LA executive members.
>
> It's possible LA and the community have parted ways. I don't know for
> sure. But if so, it's the community that's changed, not LA.
>
> LA is doing what it has always done. It funds open source
> conferences. For those of you who don't know, it works roughly like
> this: a bunch of bunnies decide they want to do the work of running a
> conference on a volunteer basis, they approach LA for funding and
> logistics, LA makes them jump through some hoops to prove it's likely
> the conference won't make a loss (I can't recall a proposal that
> didn't make it through the hoops), and it happens.
>
> The reason there is no LCA 2023 is no one put up a proposal to run
> it. In fact no one put up a proposal to run LCA 2022 either. You seem
> to be thinking this was a deliberate choice by LA. The evidence in
> the public domain says otherwise - LA repeatedly asked for bids to
> run LCA 2023 (and LCA 2022), and got none.
>
> What "LA" did receive this year, after it was obvious the community
> wasn't interested in running LCA 2023, was a proposal to run OE 2023.
> The proposal was formally voted on last night, and I voted yes. Not
> because I prefer OE format over LCA 2023 (I don't) but on the grounds
> I always use - do the bunnies look like a dedicated mob that will see
> it through to the end, is it somehow related to open source, and is
> it unlikely to make a loss. The proposal clearly met all those
> criteria.
>
> The LA above is in quotes because the people who put up the proposal
> are mostly the LA exec. Mostly, because I'm one of the lazy ones. I
> was only vaguely aware my somewhat secretive fellow exec members were
> thinking of it, and have had no involvement in it’s planning. When
> they delivered their formal budget to LA the secret was out of
> course, because as treasurer of LA I took a long hard look at the
> budget they put up, followed up on costings and quotes. But that’s
> no different to any other conference proposal.
>
> I have no inside information on what their motivations for doing it
> or choosing the format that did. But the motivations aren't hard to
> guess - I know all of them are die hard fans of open source
> conferences and they didn't want to see COVID kill Australia's
> tradition of having them. I have absolutely no idea what drove the
> format change, but here the golden rule of open source applies: he
> who does the work makes the rules. It's not the first time a
> radically different format for LCA was proposed. The only difference
> is on previous occasions, LA has always had an alternate proposal to
> run a "traditional" LCA alongside the radical one, and historically
> it's *always* chosen the traditional proposal. But that choice wasn't
> available this time.
>
> If you, or anyone feels strongly that LCA should come back you can
> make it happen. I think LA is one of open source hidden treasures,
> literally. If you come to LA with a proposal to run an open source
> conference, LA will loan you a years salary (a Google employee's
> salary even) to make it happen. LA asks for no security, or anything
> else beyond your word it's going to be a great open source conference
> run prudently. If it all goes sour (and it has), then LA wears the
> loss without complaint, and has in the past funded the same
> conference the next year. Partially because of LA's corporate
> reputation, you are likely to attract sponsors that will fund most of
> it. It's almost like an open invitation to have an open source bash
> for you and your mates at the corporate sponsors expense. And if you
> pull it off, you’ll learn a lot about your craft, realise somewhat
> to your amazement you are capable of creating and organising a team
> of 100 people that work together to deliver something fantastic, and
> earn the accolades of everyone who attends.
>
> It's one helluva deal, and one helluva of an experience. I've done it
> myself a few times, and heartily recommend it. If you want an LCA
> format conference to come back, all you have to do is take advantage
> of it.
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