[Linux-aus] How the council breached their constitution - membersregister request section 7

[Matthew Lye]

You need to see some professional help if you believe that diatribe is at
all representative of this situation. You are equiating an organisation
expelling a member for poor behaviour with the wholesale execution of
millions of people.

You also keep ignoring the part of the constitution that specifies the
purposes that you can have and use those details for. Despite questions,
you refuse to explain why you want them.

I agree your request is allowable, if its intended use is as defined in the
constitution. I also agree that there is nothing inherently wrong with the
scraping, though its intent was clearly antagonistic. I do believe the
organisation should expel you for the incredibly poor behaviour and extreme
disrespect you seem to hold for the other members.

-Matthew Lye

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On Mon, 19 Dec 2022 at 10:33, Daniel Pocock <daniel at pocock.pro> wrote:

>
> The Holocaust was all about banning, censoring and expelling Jews.
> Words we hear every day in open source now.  It is funny how people in
> open source take a few dollars from Google and they come off sounding
> like nazis.
>
> Hitler had a lot of seconders but they were all wrong.
>
> Expelling people at Christmas is the stuff of nazis.  If you have no
> conscience then keep going down that path.  Human beings listen to all
> sides, nazis punish and destroy.
>
> Two or more people getting together to ban, expel, shame or humiliate
> one volunteer is just a formalized version of gang rape.
>
> The constitution says that all members have a right to share the contact
> details of other members.  The constitution is the law.  The reference
> to expulsion is therefore an illegal act of cyberbullying.
>
> If the committee ignores the law then, to advance the constitution and
> protect the law of NSW, somebody will have to publish the list on a web
> site so all members can lawfully access it.  That is what the
> constitution tells us.
>
> Hopefully the committee will act like adults but if there is no evidence
> of maturity here by 7pm AEST then volunteers will have to protect the
> constitution.
>
> Regards,
>
> Daniel
>
> Debian Developer
>
>
>
> On 19/12/2022 01:00, Steven Ellis via linux-aus wrote:
> > I second this motion.
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 19, 2022 at 12:57 PM Michael Cordover via linux-aus
> > <linux-aus at lists.linux.org.au <mailto:linux-aus at lists.linux.org.au>>
> wrote:
> >
> >     __
> >     On Sun, Dec 18, 2022, at 18:44, Matt Cengia via linux-aus wrote:
> >>>     With that in mind, I put the email addresses from the
> >>>     linux-aus at lists.linux.org.au
> >>>     <mailto:linux-aus at lists.linux.org.au> mailing list on CC.
> >>
> >>     Given
> >>     that https://lists.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/linux-aus states
> >>     that "/The subscribers list is only available to the list
> >>     administrator/", this does not feel like an OK for you to have
> >>     done, and it's not obvious how you gathered this list, unless you
> >>     just sought anybody who had contributed to the list over the past
> >>     X years.
> >
> >     Regardless of how this information was obtained (a matter which I
> >     think should also be investigated), Daniel's actions here are
> >     egregious. They stand in stark contrast to the values of Linux
> >     Australia, in particular those of community and respect.
> >
> >     Deliberately publishing the personal information of a large number
> >     of people, without consent, in response to a thread explicitly
> >     describing concerns with such disclosure, is at best immoral. It is
> >     inflammatory and designed to cause upset. I can see no justification
> >     for it, and it demands a swift and serious response.
> >
> >     I think the appropriate response is to expel Daniel Pocock from
> >     Linux Australia, ban him from associated events, and ban him from
> >     the mailing lists. I urge the Council to begin that process
> immediately.
> >
> >     mjec
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