[Linux-aus] Fwd: Re: [Announce] AUD $35, 000 available in the 2017 Linux Australia Grants Program

Linux Australia President president at linux.org.au
Mon Mar 13 22:57:27 AEDT 2017


(Forwarding this to the Linux Aus list - which I'm presuming Derren is
not a member of)

Best, K.



-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: 	Re: [Announce] AUD $35, 000 available in the 2017 Linux
Australia Grants Program
Date: 	Mon, 13 Mar 2017 21:48:31 +1000
From: 	Derren Desouza <derrend at yahoo.co.uk>
To: 	Joshua Hesketh <president at linux.org.au>,
announce at lists.linux.org.au, Joshua Hesketh <president at linux.org.au>



Hi guys,

Just to let you know I'm not actually getting mail from the regarding 
community feedback, I did a quick google search earlier and found some 
responses on 
http://lists.linux.org.au/pipermail/linux-aus/2017-March/022957.html and 
so I'm sending this email now to address some of the points being raised.


"I'm also struggling a little with the project budget, which is 
presented in approximate form and without the type of detail I would 
expect in a grant application. For example, $1000pa PAAS hosting - what 
host? Why?"

I see the point here. In my rush to jot down a budget and send in an 
application I did only estimate the costs and idealize the situation. 
>From a bare bones perspective we can exclude noncritical expenses such 
as re-basing the project to core os and simply run on a single ubuntu 
instance which would reduce costs considerably.
There was $35,000 available and no applicants though so I figured I may 
as well go for it.


"I don't think LA should provide business start-up grants. Our
grants programs should be community-focused. Building a self-sustaining
service that has strong community demand might fall into that category;
supporting a for-profit service like this doesn't seem to."

Weather an applicant intends to generate revenue or not is irrelevant I 
believe. The only consideration of importance should be the value of 
service provided to the community.
Cryptoproof will be available to the global community, it has the 
potential to prevent people becoming victims of fraud or even ingesting 
counterfeit medication which is of great benefit in my opinion.
Just to provide some perspective, cryptoproof earns $0.01 (expected to 
be reduced as popularity increases) for each instantiated key which 
means to cover hosting costs each server instance at $20 per month would 
require 500 new keys per week so I don't think I'll be shopping for a 
new Lamborghini any time soon.


"I don't believe that cryptoproof is fundamentally capable of achieving 
it's stated goal of proving a physical object is unique and/or genuine"

I get this a lot. This tells me that the community member has failed to 
understand how it works. In a previous comment it was expressed that it 
wasn't clear how the service would generate revenue even though it's 
outlined specifically in the announcement section of the website itself.
The ann page gives explicit reasoning as to why the service is trustless 
and how it achieves it's goals - 
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1579977.msg15863685#msg15863685
It's certainly not a concept that's easily grasped, I myself had to 
wrestle with it for a while but if community members have any points 
they would like me to clarify or any scenarios that don't seem to make 
sense please let me know and I'll be happy address them.

If linux australia sees value in the idea and is interested in helping 
me bring it to fruition then I'd be happy to work out the details.

Of critical importance would be -
Web app code audit and review, ~$4000 (less thorough but cheaper)
Mobile app feature expansion, ~$2000
Flat design video tutorial and explanation, ~$2000

The rest can be put on the back burner until the service gains in 
popularity and the request can be reduced to ~$8000 if this is more 
agreeable.

Kind regards
Derren

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