[Linux-aus] Gender discrimination in IT (was Re: Victim Impact Statement)

Tennessee Leeuwenburg tleeuwenburg at gmail.com
Wed Nov 6 15:48:26 EST 2013


Is being accused of censorship so bad? LA are complicit by running this
mailing list in distributing emails to many people, and as such they have a
responsibility for moderating its content. Personally, I would rather see a
bit more censorship and a bit less bile.


On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 2:27 PM, Russell Coker <russell at coker.com.au> wrote:

> On Wed, 6 Nov 2013, Noel Butler <noel.butler at ausics.net> wrote:
> > Lastly, in my final post of this done to death thread (and its
> > variations), ask yourself this, if a woman had started this thread
> > complaining about men, would you have attacked her in the same way you
>
> When a member of a minority group complains about treatment by the majority
> it's a very different issue to having a member of the majority group
> complain
> about the minority.
>
>
> http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/roiphe/2013/08/the_anger_over_jane_austen_on_a_10_pound_note_proves_people_can_rage_over.html
>
> Women are attacked for expressing their opinions in public in a very
> different
> way, the above article is one of many documenting this.
>
> > the hypocrisy... you lot make me sick, I'm ashamed to be associated with
> > this organisation, any other organisation I'm a member of would never
> > have allowed this to get to this stage, and, if it did, would have
> > evicted the 'regular offenders' that here seem to get away with whatever
>
> Actually the committee wanted to stop this discussion.  But David accused
> them
> of attempting to censor him.
>
> It's not as if this discussion was in any way new or different.  David's
> contributions to this list always seem to be on the same topics and get the
> same reaction.  I can't imagine what the committee might have done that
> could
> have stopped this discussion without being accused of "censorship".
>
> > they want, I could go on, but if I do, It's only going to go downhill
> > and that wont be pleasant, so i';ll end my participation in this thread,
> > whilst I too, reconsider my decision as to if I wish to remain a member.
>
> Linux Australia is about "free software".  While the aims of organisations
> such as the GNU project were mostly about freedom from economic inequality
> with some tendencies towards socialism the broad concepts of "freedom" are
> widely accepted within the "free software" community.
>
> There has been a steady trend towards focussing on freedom in the FOSS
> community to include freedom from oppression and discrimination.  This is
> well
> accepted due to the long history of "freedom" being accepted as a core
> value.
>
> I think that people who are opposed to treating members of minority groups
> well are going to find the FOSS community less welcoming for them.
>
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