[Linux-aus] Grant request: Travel assistance for ODF+RDF talk at OLS
shelagh.manton at gmail.com
shelagh.manton at gmail.com
Wed Jun 20 06:52:38 EST 2012
Normally I don't speak up, leaving it to more vocal participants but I
would also like to support this application as I see a benefit in
spreading the idea of rdf in odf documents. I have in the past
explored what options there are for faking rdf in open documents so
having the real thing would be great.
Shelagh
On 19 June 2012 16:19, Ben Martin <monkeyiq at users.sourceforge.net> wrote:
> Hi folks,
> Firstly, a big thank you to Sridhar Dhanapalan and Steve Dalton for
> supporting the application!
>
> I'm not sure on the status of the application. It's been about a month
> since I proposed it and the event itself starts on the 11th of July
> (about 3 weeks time).
>
> In any case, I'll be doing my best to continue to promote ODF and open
> document computing standards & software. (& write more of the later of
> course). If semantics in ODF sounds interesting to anyone on the list,
> feel free to drop me an email :)
>
> On Mon, 2012-06-04 at 16:29 +1000, Ben Martin wrote:
>> IIRC there was some two week discussion window which ended yesterday.
>>
>> Happy to hear other comments on this.
>>
>> On Sun, 2012-05-20 at 17:55 +1000, Ben Martin wrote:
>> > Date: 20 may 2012
>> >
>> > Project Name:
>> > Travel assistance to OLS to talk about RDF+ODF in both Calligra and
>> > Abiword.
>> > OLS is on July 11-13 in Ottawa.
>> > http://www.linuxsymposium.org/2012/speakers.php?types=talk,tutorial,lightning,bofs
>> >
>> > Aim of Project:
>> > The ODF document format includes provision to store and associate one or
>> > more RDF/XML files inside the PDF zip file container with the document
>> > (content.xml). Thus, the format allows for semantic information to be a
>> > first class citizen in document computing. The catch is making sure that
>> > many of the document editing applications can offer the user a method of
>> > taking advantage of RDF simply and making the experience compelling
>> > enough that businesses demand RDF as part of their documents.
>> >
>> > Simply, the aim is to move word processors from tools which arrange
>> > strings of characters to being tools which allow editing semantic
>> > documents. Then the document can know about who, what, where, why, and
>> > the relation between things. Tables of content can be supplemented with
>> > tables of semantic relations and logistics timelines. I think RDF in ODF
>> > gives the opportunity for the semantic web stuff to move onto open
>> > source desktops before it gains mainstream acceptance.
>> >
>> > I have made inroads in both Calligra and Abiword to this ends, and am
>> > hopeful to attract interest at OLS to further and accelerate the pace of
>> > development. While I enjoy attending conferences as much as the next
>> > person, the main goal of this grant is to try to get larger companies
>> > attending OLS interested in RDF/ODF enough to help move it forward. Of
>> > course, I'd love to be a part of helping that movement too on the C++
>> > coding front :) Ancillary: if anyone wishes to hack on this stuff or
>> > knows projects which might like to use it, feel free to contact me!
>> >
>> > I can see two ways that Australian citizens could benefit from this
>> > grant. I say could because the grant is to travel in order to try to
>> > gain wider acceptance, more hackers, and interest in the core idea of
>> > RDF+ODF. It is very hard to directly tie tangible positive outcomes.
>> >
>> > The first good thing I see would be helping to save people from being
>> > locked in to online "cloud" service providers for document computing,
>> > with their vendor lockin, variable T&C, and closed source codebases
>> > which disappear. Some of these offerings are trying to integrate with
>> > Web 2.0 to provide a more compelling experience for the user. This
>> > integration is exactly what RDF+ODF offers in a purely open standards
>> > way.
>> >
>> > A longer term benefit would be having RDF on the OLPC write activity.
>> > The write activity is based on abiword, so could allow for RDF to be
>> > collaboratively edited by millions of children, a subset of these being
>> > Australian citizens. If RDF is accepted by children as useful, perhaps
>> > not at the triple level, but at a level that it helps do something
>> > useful, then it becomes a widely used and expected feature of document
>> > computing.
>> >
>> > Person Responsible for Request:
>> > Ben Martin
>> >
>> > Request:
>> > Return airfare to Ottawa in July ($3500 or below).
>> >
>> > Orbitz has this pegged at $3300 to $3700 on a major carrier.
>> > A route not considered by them is:
>> > Brisbane <-> tokyo, Qantas = $1150
>> > tokyo <-> ottawa , AmericanAir = $1600
>> > --------
>> > = $2750
>> > And probably cheaper yet with jetstar, but also flight dates are
>> > critical to price and likely to change by the time approval of the grant
>> > may occur.
>> >
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