http://www.divisiontwo.com/articles/mcse2.htm This one bends my mind. Enjoy. Cheers; Leon -- http://cyberknights.com.au/ Modern tools; traditional dedication http://plug.linux.org.au/ Committee Member, Perth Linux User Group http://slpwa.asn.au/ Committee Member, Linux Professionals WA http://linux.org.au/ Past Committee Member, Linux Australia