From steven.ellis at gmail.com Thu Aug 2 06:16:16 2018 From: steven.ellis at gmail.com (Steven Ellis) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2018 08:16:16 +1200 Subject: [Grants] New Zealand Open Source Society Grant Request Message-ID: *Website* - https://nzoss.org.nz/ NZOSS Mission Statement - The NZOSS exists to "share the freedom of open source software, open standards, and open information for the benefit of New Zealand." *Current 2017/18 Council* https://nzoss.org.nz/content/nzoss-council-for-2017-18 ? Dave Lane - President NZOSS. Founder of Egressive in Christchurch focused on Open Source technologies. Currently works for the Open Education Resources Foundation in the role of "Open Source Technologist" ? Tim McNamara - Vice President ? Danny Adair - Works at Catalyst NZ. Local and regional member of the Python Community, and current President of NZ Python User Group ? Steven Ellis - Works at Red Hat NZ. Vice Chair of LCA 2015 in Auckland and a long standing advoate for Open Source ? Rob Elshire - Secretary - Independent Genomics Scientist. Developed an Open Genetics Analysist (genotyping-by-sequencing) method widely used in the agricultural, ecology and conservation biology disciplines. ? Carl Klitscher - Treasurer, Active IITP Member and long Open Source Advocate. ? Aimee Whitcroft - Open Govt and Open Data - involved with Gov Hack in NZ for the last 3 years. *Overview* NZOSS operates as an NZ Registered Charity, funded by a small number of sponsors and its financial members (https://nzoss.org.nz/join). In addition to representing the Open Source community across New Zealand in the last year the society has participated in ? Advocacy for Open Source to NZ Govt ? Including historical opposition to a number of XML Patent applications in NZ ? https://nzoss.org.nz/content/nzoss-wins-patent-opposition ? The running of an OpenSource Track at ITX in 2017 and 2018 ? Attended NZ Tech meetups alongside NZ Rise, Internet NZ - Nudge DAVE ? Hosting regional Open Source meetups, initially in Christchurch, Auckland and Wellington ? Local sponsor of Open Source conferences and events ? Key participant in the NZ Open Source Awards ? Advisor to LCA 2010, 2015 and 2019 held in NZ In order to grow we need to re-invest in our infrastructure and grow the awareness of the society. The 2015 linux.conf.au helped raise awareness of Open Source technologies and capabilities and we can't afford to loose momentum. With the return of linux.conf.au in 2019 to NZ we've got a perfect opportunity to expand the awareness of Open Source, Open Hardware, Open Govt and Open Data. Our short term plan is to improve our membership management system while continuing to support out Open Source awareness and outreach. NZOSS have monthly council meetings and the minutes/actions can be made available to the Linux Australia Council. 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Thanks Sae Ra > On 2 Aug 2018, at 6:16 am, Steven Ellis wrote: > > Website - https://nzoss.org.nz/ > > NZOSS Mission Statement - The NZOSS exists to "share the freedom of open source software, open standards, and open information for the benefit of New Zealand." > > > Current 2017/18 Council > https://nzoss.org.nz/content/nzoss-council-for-2017-18 > > ? Dave Lane - President NZOSS. Founder of Egressive in Christchurch focused on Open Source technologies. Currently works for the Open Education Resources Foundation in the role of "Open Source Technologist" > ? Tim McNamara - Vice President > ? Danny Adair - Works at Catalyst NZ. Local and regional member of the Python Community, and current President of NZ Python User Group > ? Steven Ellis - Works at Red Hat NZ. Vice Chair of LCA 2015 in Auckland and a long standing advoate for Open Source > ? Rob Elshire - Secretary - Independent Genomics Scientist. Developed an Open Genetics Analysist (genotyping-by-sequencing) method widely used in the agricultural, ecology and conservation biology disciplines. > ? Carl Klitscher - Treasurer, Active IITP Member and long Open Source Advocate. > ? Aimee Whitcroft - Open Govt and Open Data - involved with Gov Hack in NZ for the last 3 years. > > Overview > > NZOSS operates as an NZ Registered Charity, funded by a small number of sponsors and its financial members (https://nzoss.org.nz/join). > > In addition to representing the Open Source community across New Zealand in the last year the society has participated in > > ? Advocacy for Open Source to NZ Govt > ? Including historical opposition to a number of XML Patent applications in NZ > ? https://nzoss.org.nz/content/nzoss-wins-patent-opposition > ? The running of an OpenSource Track at ITX in 2017 and 2018 > ? Attended NZ Tech meetups alongside NZ Rise, Internet NZ - Nudge DAVE > ? Hosting regional Open Source meetups, initially in Christchurch, Auckland and Wellington > ? Local sponsor of Open Source conferences and events > ? Key participant in the NZ Open Source Awards > ? Advisor to LCA 2010, 2015 and 2019 held in NZ > > In order to grow we need to re-invest in our infrastructure and grow the awareness of the society. The 2015 linux.conf.au helped raise awareness of Open Source technologies and capabilities and we can't afford to loose momentum. With the return of linux.conf.au in 2019 to NZ we've got a perfect opportunity to expand the awareness of Open Source, Open Hardware, Open Govt and Open Data. > > Our short term plan is to improve our membership management system while continuing to support out Open Source awareness and outreach. > > NZOSS have monthly council meetings and the minutes/actions can be made available to the Linux Australia Council. > > Request is for the sum of NZD $5000 to enhance our infrastructure to increase membership growth and sustainability whilst continuing our current local advocacy. > _______________________________________________ > committee mailing list > committee at lists.linux.org.au > http://lists.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/committee > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to > committee-unsubscribe at lists.linux.org.au -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From steven.ellis at gmail.com Thu Aug 2 07:43:49 2018 From: steven.ellis at gmail.com (Steven Ellis) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2018 09:43:49 +1200 Subject: [Grants] [LACTTE] New Zealand Open Source Society Grant Request In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Many thanks. On Thu, 2 Aug 2018, 9:42 AM Sae Ra Germaine, wrote: > Good morning Steve, > > > Thank you for your submission. Your submission is now available for > comment from our community for the next 2 weeks and will be tabled for the > following council meeting. > > Thanks > > Sae Ra > > On 2 Aug 2018, at 6:16 am, Steven Ellis wrote: > > *Website* - https://nzoss.org.nz/ > > NZOSS Mission Statement - The NZOSS exists to "share the freedom of open > source software, open standards, and open information for the benefit of > New Zealand." > > > *Current 2017/18 Council* > https://nzoss.org.nz/content/nzoss-council-for-2017-18 > > ? Dave Lane - President NZOSS. Founder of Egressive in Christchurch > focused on Open Source technologies. Currently works for the Open Education > Resources Foundation in the role of "Open Source Technologist" > ? Tim McNamara - Vice President > ? Danny Adair - Works at Catalyst NZ. Local and regional member of the > Python Community, and current President of NZ Python User Group > ? Steven Ellis - Works at Red Hat NZ. Vice Chair of LCA 2015 in > Auckland and a long standing advoate for Open Source > ? Rob Elshire - Secretary - Independent Genomics Scientist. Developed > an Open Genetics Analysist (genotyping-by-sequencing) method widely used > in the agricultural, ecology and conservation biology disciplines. > ? Carl Klitscher - Treasurer, Active IITP Member and long Open > Source Advocate. > ? Aimee Whitcroft - Open Govt and Open Data - involved with Gov Hack > in NZ for the last 3 years. > > *Overview* > > NZOSS operates as an NZ Registered Charity, funded by a small number of > sponsors and its financial members (https://nzoss.org.nz/join). > > In addition to representing the Open Source community across New Zealand > in the last year the society has participated in > > ? Advocacy for Open Source to NZ Govt > ? Including historical opposition to a number of XML Patent > applications in NZ > ? https://nzoss.org.nz/content/nzoss-wins-patent-opposition > ? The running of an OpenSource Track at ITX in 2017 and 2018 > ? Attended NZ Tech meetups alongside NZ Rise, Internet NZ - Nudge DAVE > ? Hosting regional Open Source meetups, initially in Christchurch, > Auckland and Wellington > ? Local sponsor of Open Source conferences and events > ? Key participant in the NZ Open Source Awards > ? Advisor to LCA 2010, 2015 and 2019 held in NZ > > In order to grow we need to re-invest in our infrastructure and grow the > awareness of the society. The 2015 linux.conf.au helped raise awareness > of Open Source technologies and capabilities and we can't afford to loose > momentum. With the return of linux.conf.au in 2019 to NZ we've got a > perfect opportunity to expand the awareness of Open Source, Open Hardware, > Open Govt and Open Data. > > Our short term plan is to improve our membership management system while > continuing to support out Open Source awareness and outreach. > > NZOSS have monthly council meetings and the minutes/actions can be made > available to the Linux Australia Council. > > Request is for the sum of NZD $5000 to enhance our infrastructure to > increase membership growth and sustainability whilst continuing our current > local advocacy. > > _______________________________________________ > committee mailing list > committee at lists.linux.org.au > http://lists.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/committee > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to > committee-unsubscribe at lists.linux.org.au > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jwoithe at just42.net Thu Aug 2 09:40:54 2018 From: jwoithe at just42.net (Jonathan Woithe) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2018 09:10:54 +0930 Subject: [Grants] New Zealand Open Source Society Grant Request In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20180801234054.GB15274@marvin.atrad.com.au> Hi Steven On Thu, Aug 02, 2018 at 08:16:16AM +1200, Steven Ellis wrote: > NZOSS Mission Statement - The NZOSS exists to "share the freedom of open > source software, open standards, and open information for the benefit of > New Zealand." > : > In order to grow we need to re-invest in our infrastructure and grow the > awareness of the society. The 2015 linux.conf.au helped raise awareness of > Open Source technologies and capabilities and we can't afford to loose > momentum. With the return of linux.conf.au in 2019 to NZ we've got a > perfect opportunity to expand the awareness of Open Source, Open Hardware, > Open Govt and Open Data. > > Our short term plan is to improve our membership management system while > continuing to support out Open Source awareness and outreach. > > NZOSS have monthly council meetings and the minutes/actions can be made > available to the Linux Australia Council. > > Request is for the sum of NZD $5000 to enhance our infrastructure to > increase membership growth and sustainability whilst continuing our current > local advocacy. Could you clarify what infrastructure you are planning to enhance in the event the grant application is successful? Is it solely the membership management system you mentioned earlier, or are other items conceptually included as well? Has any preliminary planning been done, and if so, are you able to outline where you think things might head if the grant were successful? For example, do you have a specific membership system in mind? On the subject of the membership management system, I note that LA is in the process of reviewing and modernising its membership management system. Has NZOSS spoken to LA about possibly sharing the outcome of this process? The aims of the two organisations are quite similar, so it seems plausible that a membership system which suited LA would at least form a solid base for NZOSS as well. To be clear, I'm not suggesting the sharing of a single membership management system instance since the two organisations are completely separate entities. Having both organisations use the same software (with the necessary local customisations) would possibly provide a number of benefits: more people in the region being familiar with the system, the opportunity to share maintenance costs of the basic platform, and so on. Regards jonathan From kathy at kathyreid.id.au Thu Aug 2 11:32:24 2018 From: kathy at kathyreid.id.au (Kathy Reid) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2018 11:32:24 +1000 Subject: [Grants] New Zealand Open Source Society Grant Request In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Speaking personally, rather than with my Pres hat on, I'd like to see some breakdowns of what the Grant money would be spent on - for larger Grants of this size we usually request a breakdown. Best, Kathy On 02/08/18 06:16, Steven Ellis wrote: > *Website* - https://nzoss.org.nz/ > > NZOSS Mission Statement - The NZOSS exists to "share the freedom of > open source software, open standards, and open information for the > benefit of New Zealand."? > > > *Current 2017/18 Council* > ?https://nzoss.org.nz/content/nzoss-council-for-2017-18 > ? > ??? ? Dave Lane - President NZOSS. Founder of Egressive in > Christchurch focused on Open Source technologies. Currently works for > the Open Education Resources Foundation in the role of "Open Source > Technologist" > ??? ? Tim McNamara - Vice President > ??? ? Danny Adair - Works at Catalyst NZ. Local and regional member of > the Python Community, and current President of NZ Python User Group > ??? ? Steven Ellis - Works at Red Hat NZ. Vice Chair of LCA 2015 in > Auckland and a long standing advoate for Open Source > ??? ? Rob Elshire - Secretary -? Independent Genomics Scientist. > Developed an Open Genetics Analysist (genotyping-by-sequencing)? > method widely used in the agricultural, ecology and conservation > biology disciplines. > ??? ? Carl Klitscher - Treasurer,? Active IITP Member and long? Open > Source Advocate. > ??? ? Aimee Whitcroft? - Open Govt and Open Data - involved with Gov > Hack in NZ for the last 3 years. > > *Overview* > > NZOSS operates as an NZ Registered Charity, funded by a small number > of sponsors and its financial members (https://nzoss.org.nz/join). > > In addition to representing the Open Source community across New > Zealand in the last year the society has participated in > > ??? ? Advocacy for Open Source to NZ Govt > ??? ? Including historical opposition to a number of XML Patent > applications in NZ > ??? ? https://nzoss.org.nz/content/nzoss-wins-patent-opposition > ??? ? The running of an OpenSource Track at ITX in 2017 and 2018 > ??? ? Attended NZ Tech meetups alongside NZ Rise, Internet NZ - Nudge DAVE > ??? ? Hosting regional Open Source meetups, initially in Christchurch, > Auckland and Wellington > ??? ? Local sponsor of Open Source conferences and events > ??? ? Key participant in the NZ Open Source Awards > ??? ? Advisor to LCA 2010, 2015 and 2019 held in NZ > > In order to grow we need to re-invest in our infrastructure and grow > the awareness of the society. The 2015 linux.conf.au > helped raise awareness of Open Source > technologies and capabilities and we can't afford to loose momentum. > With the return of linux.conf.au in 2019 to NZ > we've got a perfect opportunity to expand the awareness of Open > Source, Open Hardware, Open Govt and Open Data. > > Our short term plan is to improve our membership management system > while continuing to support out Open Source awareness and outreach. > > NZOSS have monthly council meetings and the minutes/actions can be > made available to the Linux Australia Council. > > Request is for the sum of NZD $5000 to enhance our infrastructure to > increase membership growth and sustainability whilst continuing our > current local advocacy. > > > _______________________________________________ > Grants mailing list > Grants at lists.linux.org.au > http://lists.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/grants -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From steven.ellis at gmail.com Tue Aug 7 14:25:04 2018 From: steven.ellis at gmail.com (Steven Ellis) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2018 16:25:04 +1200 Subject: [Grants] New Zealand Open Source Society Grant Request In-Reply-To: <20180801234054.GB15274@marvin.atrad.com.au> References: <20180801234054.GB15274@marvin.atrad.com.au> Message-ID: We've look at the current technology options being used by LA, and in part it comes down to local capability within the NZOSS team. I did raise the pathway LA was taking during our selection model and we've headed off down a different route. Also our membership model is somewhat different from LA as we're funded by membership, grants and sponsorship rather than via events. We're currently operating on a very low paid membership base and can't afford potentially expensive infrastructure. If it wasn't for donated hosting from Catalyst IT's Cloud we'd have some real issues, hence the request for funding. We're currently focused on going live with our new environment - Odoo - for membership management - Stripe - for online payments - Drupal as the NZOSS frontend In addition we're provided a bunch of shared services for a number of NZ based community events and open source projects via our - RocketChat - GitLab - NextCloud + CollabraOffice The concern is being able to pay for this infrastructure as we're currently working of historical capital. A couple of key current goals are - to make becoming a "paid" member easier - allow better access to some core facilities like the GitLab and RocketChat environment. - boost our advocacy program Steven On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 11:40 AM, Jonathan Woithe wrote: > Hi Steven > > On Thu, Aug 02, 2018 at 08:16:16AM +1200, Steven Ellis wrote: > > NZOSS Mission Statement - The NZOSS exists to "share the freedom of open > > source software, open standards, and open information for the benefit of > > New Zealand." > > : > > In order to grow we need to re-invest in our infrastructure and grow the > > awareness of the society. The 2015 linux.conf.au helped raise awareness > of > > Open Source technologies and capabilities and we can't afford to loose > > momentum. With the return of linux.conf.au in 2019 to NZ we've got a > > perfect opportunity to expand the awareness of Open Source, Open > Hardware, > > Open Govt and Open Data. > > > > Our short term plan is to improve our membership management system while > > continuing to support out Open Source awareness and outreach. > > > > NZOSS have monthly council meetings and the minutes/actions can be made > > available to the Linux Australia Council. > > > > Request is for the sum of NZD $5000 to enhance our infrastructure to > > increase membership growth and sustainability whilst continuing our > current > > local advocacy. > > Could you clarify what infrastructure you are planning to enhance in the > event the grant application is successful? Is it solely the membership > management system you mentioned earlier, or are other items conceptually > included as well? Has any preliminary planning been done, and if so, are > you able to outline where you think things might head if the grant were > successful? For example, do you have a specific membership system in mind? > > On the subject of the membership management system, I note that LA is in > the > process of reviewing and modernising its membership management system. Has > NZOSS spoken to LA about possibly sharing the outcome of this process? The > aims of the two organisations are quite similar, so it seems plausible that > a membership system which suited LA would at least form a solid base for > NZOSS as well. > > To be clear, I'm not suggesting the sharing of a single membership > management system instance since the two organisations are completely > separate entities. > > Having both organisations use the same software (with the necessary local > customisations) would possibly provide a number of benefits: more people in > the region being familiar with the system, the opportunity to share > maintenance costs of the basic platform, and so on. > > Regards > jonathan > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From inventiontime at gmail.com Tue Aug 7 19:45:57 2018 From: inventiontime at gmail.com (SM Motahar) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2018 17:45:57 +0800 Subject: [Grants] New Zealand Open Source Society Grant Request In-Reply-To: References: <20180801234054.GB15274@marvin.atrad.com.au> Message-ID: Hi Steven, Just came across this. Is there any direct contribution to the growth of Australian open source developers ? I have my students with a lot of potential doing casual works and they all have lots of ideas looking for small stipend to action it. Regards, Mohammad On 7 August 2018 at 12:25, Steven Ellis wrote: > We've look at the current technology options being used by LA, and in part > it comes down to local capability within the NZOSS team. I did raise the > pathway LA was taking during our selection model and we've headed off down > a different route. > > Also our membership model is somewhat different from LA as we're funded by > membership, grants and sponsorship rather than via events. We're currently > operating on a very low paid membership base and can't afford potentially > expensive infrastructure. If it wasn't for donated hosting from Catalyst > IT's Cloud we'd have some real issues, hence the request for funding. > > We're currently focused on going live with our new environment > - Odoo - for membership management > - Stripe - for online payments > - Drupal as the NZOSS frontend > > In addition we're provided a bunch of shared services for a number of NZ > based community events and open source projects via our > - RocketChat > - GitLab > - NextCloud + CollabraOffice > > The concern is being able to pay for this infrastructure as we're > currently working of historical capital. > > A couple of key current goals are > - to make becoming a "paid" member easier > - allow better access to some core facilities like the GitLab and > RocketChat environment. > - boost our advocacy program > > Steven > > On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 11:40 AM, Jonathan Woithe > wrote: > >> Hi Steven >> >> On Thu, Aug 02, 2018 at 08:16:16AM +1200, Steven Ellis wrote: >> > NZOSS Mission Statement - The NZOSS exists to "share the freedom of open >> > source software, open standards, and open information for the benefit of >> > New Zealand." >> > : >> > In order to grow we need to re-invest in our infrastructure and grow the >> > awareness of the society. The 2015 linux.conf.au helped raise >> awareness of >> > Open Source technologies and capabilities and we can't afford to loose >> > momentum. With the return of linux.conf.au in 2019 to NZ we've got a >> > perfect opportunity to expand the awareness of Open Source, Open >> Hardware, >> > Open Govt and Open Data. >> > >> > Our short term plan is to improve our membership management system while >> > continuing to support out Open Source awareness and outreach. >> > >> > NZOSS have monthly council meetings and the minutes/actions can be made >> > available to the Linux Australia Council. >> > >> > Request is for the sum of NZD $5000 to enhance our infrastructure to >> > increase membership growth and sustainability whilst continuing our >> current >> > local advocacy. >> >> Could you clarify what infrastructure you are planning to enhance in the >> event the grant application is successful? Is it solely the membership >> management system you mentioned earlier, or are other items conceptually >> included as well? Has any preliminary planning been done, and if so, are >> you able to outline where you think things might head if the grant were >> successful? For example, do you have a specific membership system in >> mind? >> >> On the subject of the membership management system, I note that LA is in >> the >> process of reviewing and modernising its membership management system. >> Has >> NZOSS spoken to LA about possibly sharing the outcome of this process? >> The >> aims of the two organisations are quite similar, so it seems plausible >> that >> a membership system which suited LA would at least form a solid base for >> NZOSS as well. >> >> To be clear, I'm not suggesting the sharing of a single membership >> management system instance since the two organisations are completely >> separate entities. >> >> Having both organisations use the same software (with the necessary local >> customisations) would possibly provide a number of benefits: more people >> in >> the region being familiar with the system, the opportunity to share >> maintenance costs of the basic platform, and so on. >> >> Regards >> jonathan >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Grants mailing list > Grants at lists.linux.org.au > http://lists.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/grants > > -- Seyed Mohammad Motahar Open Source ERP Consultant www.motahar.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jwoithe at just42.net Wed Aug 15 09:43:12 2018 From: jwoithe at just42.net (Jonathan Woithe) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2018 09:13:12 +0930 Subject: [Grants] New Zealand Open Source Society Grant Request In-Reply-To: References: <20180801234054.GB15274@marvin.atrad.com.au> Message-ID: <20180814234312.GB23579@marvin.atrad.com.au> Hi Steven Thanks for your follow up message. On Tue, Aug 07, 2018 at 04:25:04PM +1200, Steven Ellis wrote: > We've look at the current technology options being used by LA, and in part > it comes down to local capability within the NZOSS team. I did raise the > pathway LA was taking during our selection model and we've headed off down > a different route. That's fair enough. I assume that by "the current technology options" includes the new platforms which LA is in the process of preparing. > We're currently focused on going live with our new environment > - Odoo - for membership management > - Stripe - for online payments > - Drupal as the NZOSS frontend > > In addition we're provided a bunch of shared services for a number of NZ > based community events and open source projects via our > - RocketChat > - GitLab > - NextCloud + CollabraOffice > > The concern is being able to pay for this infrastructure as we're currently > working of historical capital. What exactly is the grant intended to fund? Are you self-hosting these services (except Stripe, obviously) on servers that the grant will pay for, or is the intent to pay for commercially hosted instances of these services? For each piece of infrastructure noted above, what are the costs involved and how will the LA grant be divided up across these? How long do you expect the requested funds to last? How do you plan to fill the funding void in a sustainable manner after the LA grant funds are exhausted? > A couple of key current goals are > - to make becoming a "paid" member easier > - allow better access to some core facilities like the GitLab and > RocketChat environment. > - boost our advocacy program Are these also connected with the grant application, or are they separate activitities you are hoping to carry out over the coming months? If the LA grant is intended to assist with these, what are the costs associated with these activities and how do you plan to action them? Regards jonathan From steven.ellis at gmail.com Wed Aug 15 15:00:58 2018 From: steven.ellis at gmail.com (Steven Ellis) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2018 17:00:58 +1200 Subject: [Grants] New Zealand Open Source Society Grant Request In-Reply-To: <20180814234312.GB23579@marvin.atrad.com.au> References: <20180801234054.GB15274@marvin.atrad.com.au> <20180814234312.GB23579@marvin.atrad.com.au> Message-ID: Sorry about the delays - I'm trying to get the actual costs out of the treasurer. Steven On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 11:43 AM Jonathan Woithe wrote: > Hi Steven > > Thanks for your follow up message. > > On Tue, Aug 07, 2018 at 04:25:04PM +1200, Steven Ellis wrote: > > We've look at the current technology options being used by LA, and in > part > > it comes down to local capability within the NZOSS team. I did raise the > > pathway LA was taking during our selection model and we've headed off > down > > a different route. > > That's fair enough. I assume that by "the current technology options" > includes the new platforms which LA is in the process of preparing. > > > We're currently focused on going live with our new environment > > - Odoo - for membership management > > - Stripe - for online payments > > - Drupal as the NZOSS frontend > > > > In addition we're provided a bunch of shared services for a number of NZ > > based community events and open source projects via our > > - RocketChat > > - GitLab > > - NextCloud + CollabraOffice > > > > The concern is being able to pay for this infrastructure as we're > currently > > working of historical capital. > > What exactly is the grant intended to fund? Are you self-hosting these > services (except Stripe, obviously) on servers that the grant will pay for, > or is the intent to pay for commercially hosted instances of these > services? > > For each piece of infrastructure noted above, what are the costs involved > and how will the LA grant be divided up across these? How long do you > expect the requested funds to last? How do you plan to fill the funding > void in a sustainable manner after the LA grant funds are exhausted? > > > A couple of key current goals are > > - to make becoming a "paid" member easier > > - allow better access to some core facilities like the GitLab and > > RocketChat environment. > > - boost our advocacy program > > Are these also connected with the grant application, or are they separate > activitities you are hoping to carry out over the coming months? If the LA > grant is intended to assist with these, what are the costs associated with > these activities and how do you plan to action them? > > Regards > jonathan > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The handling of that data, and any solutions which might come from it, is separate. Is this a fair summary of the situation? 2. The grant funding is being directed to app development which will be done off-shore. This means that the immediate beneficiary of the grant funds will be overseas developers. Could you explain how the awarding of the grant will benefit the Open Source community in Australia which Linux Australia represents? The grant application calls out the availability of an open source production-grade app for iOS and Android as a positive, which it is. However, there already is a repository of Open Source Android apps (Fdroid) - admittedly of varying quality, with no iOS equivalent[1] that I'm aware of - so I'm not sure how significant this is in practice. Regards jonathan [1] Mostly due to platform restrictions from what I've been told. From thediazes at outlook.com Fri Aug 31 12:36:20 2018 From: thediazes at outlook.com (Manuel Diaz) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2018 02:36:20 +0000 Subject: [Grants] Application for a Linux Australia Grant In-Reply-To: <20180830004800.GD7507@marvin.atrad.com.au> References: , <20180830004800.GD7507@marvin.atrad.com.au> Message-ID: Hi Jonathan, Thank you for your feedback regarding the application for grant that we submitted to Linux Australia. To provide context, Ronald and myself have embarked on the project which we called The Wait Advisor. It is a system that collects data on wait times in the trucking industry with a view to expose these delays in the supply chain so things can be improved. Our aim is to reduce or eliminate these delays, because long waits correlate to driver fatigue. According to a 2013 study conducted by Ann Williamson and Rena Friswell at the University of New South Wales published in the journal Accident Analysis & Prevention, drivers required to wait in queues experienced fatigue more. There are around 200,000 truck drivers in Australia, which gives an indication of up to how many people are impacted by the issue. Put them on the road, considering that driver fatigue is a leading cause of vehicular crashes, tells us that this issue needs to be addressed. If we are able to save the life or limb of at least one, it is something worthwhile to do. As you have described, the system consists of two components: the data collection part (which will require the development of the mobile app) and the data processing part (which will be the handling of data). We have applied for the grant to cover the development of the data collection part, but the development being considered consists of both components. Initially, we were planning to develop the full system ourselves (both components as open source). There used to be four of us in the team, but two have since moved on. The situation left us less able, so we looked at outsourcing some of the work. It is a choice then between the data collection component (the mobile apps) or the data processing component (data visualization and presentation). We have started work on the Android aspect of the mobile app as well as the preliminary work for the data visualization. Considering the complexity involved in the work, we deemed it best to outsource the app development because it would be less of a risk-- the business logic and implementation required is straightforward. We will then continue with the work already started in the data visualization component. Please note that both components will be open source. So to answer your first question, is it a fair summary to say that the development being considered is focused on the data collection side while the handling of that data and any solution that might come from it is separate, it depends on what you meant by "being considered"-- The project is a full system, one component will not work without the other. We are building both. To build them, we need funding. We have tried, up until this point, to finance the project out of our own pockets, but it has put a strain on the family finances. Hence, we looked for funding in the form of a grant. As discussed above, the easiest to outsource was the development of the mobile apps, so we have decided to propose to use whatever assistance we will get to that piece of work. Aware that most grants would require whatever is given to be matched, our proposal indicated the costs divided between the two apps that need to be developed, the remaining costs to be covered by ourselves. As to your second question, let me first clarify. While it is true that the grant funding as proposed is being directed to app development which will be done off-shore, it does not mean that the immediate beneficiary of the grant funds will be overseas developers. The immediate beneficiary of the funds will be us, the proponents, because we will then be able to channel our available personal funds to the development of the core system. Paying someone from overseas (or even domestically within Australia) is not a benefit to them, because it would be fair payment for work or services rendered. The benefit is to us, because then we are able to have the work done and we are able to manage our cash flow better. How will the awarding of the grant benefit the Open Source community in Australia which Linux Australia represents? By awarding the grant, the open source community in Australia will benefit in at least two several areas: In the technical area, Linux Australia is making it possible not just for open source production-grade app for iOS and Android to be available, but also for a full system of data collection and visualization to be out there in the open for anyone to use, build on, develop or improve. If there is already such a system or anything similar out in the open source community in Australia or elsewhere, it does not negate the fact that this is one which is poised to be in actual use and is specific to a particular industry addressing an often overlooked issue. Because there is an existing Linux distro does not mean that the open source community should no longer develop or support other distributions. In a similar vein, because there is already a repository of open source Android apps, it does not mean that all other Android apps should no longer be accepted or supported by the open source community, unless of course if the app is a replica of what already exists, and this project is definitely not that type. In addition, the source code availability of an IOS implementation for an Android app is something that is very useful for those who are learning the intricacies of development in both platforms. In the non-technical area of social responsibility, Linux Australia is making it possible for an often glossed upon issue in the trucking industry to be exposed, looked at, talked about, and hopefully actioned by stakeholders. The loss of life or limb caused by vehicular accident in Australian roads can be prevented in most cases-- data has shown that fatigue is a leading cause of crashes where heavy vehicles appear to be over-represented. Fatigue is a complex issue, and most current solutions address detection and warning. This project is thinking out of the box and approaches fatigue from a different angle, but which has the potential to directly, significantly and profoundly impact the lives of 200,000 truck drivers in Australia. Indirectly, it can potentially spell the difference between being able to go home at the end of the day safe or otherwise, for you and me and everyone using Australian roads. How many projects have Linux Australia funded that has this potential? Finally, if the use of grant money to pay part of the development work overseas is an issue, we hope that the Council will allow for a revision of the cost items in the proposal because in the end, we are asking for the grant to help us fund a project which actually requires more financial resources. Thank you very much. Sincerely, Manuel Diaz Team Lead, The Wait Advisor Project -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: