From russell at coker.com.au Sat Apr 2 17:31:37 2022 From: russell at coker.com.au (Russell Coker) Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2022 17:31:37 +1100 Subject: [Flounder] Flounder April Hack day Message-ID: <1702654.HimW7G9Vse@xev> https://flounder.linux.org.au/events/flounder-april-2022-hack/ On the 16th of April we are having a Flounder hack day. Have something FOSS related to work on (doesn't have to be coding, can be documentation, reporting bugs, editing Wikipedia, etc) and join the video call. The aim is to have fun, chat about computers, and hopefully get some useful FOSS stuff done too. -- My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/ From russell at coker.com.au Mon Apr 4 18:27:35 2022 From: russell at coker.com.au (Russell Coker) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2022 18:27:35 +1000 Subject: [Flounder] AWS Message-ID: <2995627.jIdKl4pDzP@xev> # I?m **** ****, Developer Marketing Manager at Amazon Web Services. # I?m reaching out to you as the owner of a tech related meetup group, to # offer AWS speakers, SWAGs, and credits for upcoming events. If this is # something you?d be interested in, you can reach out to me here or via # ****@amazon.com to discuss topics and find a relevant speaker. I just got the above message via linkedin. We don't physically meet so SWAG probably isn't much use unless they offer something particularly good that's worth the effort of remailing. Speakers might not help as we aren't about learning how to do proprietary things, although of course if they have something about AWS services that are managed FOSS services then it might be useful from a FOSS perspective (maybe they have a PostgreSQL lecture that can be suitably informative for non-AWS PostgreSQL). AWS credits could be useful, instead of messing around with port forwarding etc we could just run on EC2. Also given the number of people here I'm surely not the only one with AWS experience so if I'm not well enough to set things up properly (as was the case last Saturday) then someone else could take over. What do you think? -- My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/ From NZOSS at etelligence.info Mon Apr 4 19:05:53 2022 From: NZOSS at etelligence.info (DL Neil) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2022 21:05:53 +1200 Subject: [Flounder] AWS In-Reply-To: <2995627.jIdKl4pDzP@xev> References: <2995627.jIdKl4pDzP@xev> Message-ID: On 04/04/2022 20.27, Russell Coker via Flounder wrote: > # I?m **** ****, Developer Marketing Manager at Amazon Web Services. > # I?m reaching out to you as the owner of a tech related meetup group, to > # offer AWS speakers, SWAGs, and credits for upcoming events. If this is > # something you?d be interested in, you can reach out to me here or via > # ****@amazon.com to discuss topics and find a relevant speaker. > > I just got the above message via linkedin. We don't physically meet so SWAG > probably isn't much use unless they offer something particularly good that's > worth the effort of remailing. Speakers might not help as we aren't about > learning how to do proprietary things, although of course if they have > something about AWS services that are managed FOSS services then it might be > useful from a FOSS perspective (maybe they have a PostgreSQL lecture that can > be suitably informative for non-AWS PostgreSQL). > > AWS credits could be useful, instead of messing around with port forwarding > etc we could just run on EC2. Also given the number of people here I'm surely > not the only one with AWS experience so if I'm not well enough to set things > up properly (as was the case last Saturday) then someone else could take over. > > What do you think? I'm wary of AWS. Aren't they keen to 'take' benefit from F/LOSS projects but slower to make any (useful) return? We're a F/LOSS group, so if the subject (even, if the speaker/sponsor) is not aligned, we shouldn't... -- Regards =dn From russell at coker.com.au Mon Apr 4 19:29:16 2022 From: russell at coker.com.au (Russell Coker) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2022 19:29:16 +1000 Subject: [Flounder] AWS In-Reply-To: References: <2995627.jIdKl4pDzP@xev> Message-ID: <21700994.YPtspjviQL@xev> On Monday, 4 April 2022 19:05:53 AEST DL Neil via Flounder wrote: > > AWS credits could be useful, instead of messing around with port > > forwarding > > etc we could just run on EC2. Also given the number of people here I'm > > surely not the only one with AWS experience so if I'm not well enough to > > set things up properly (as was the case last Saturday) then someone else > > could take over. > > > > What do you think? > > I'm wary of AWS. Aren't they keen to 'take' benefit from F/LOSS projects > but slower to make any (useful) return? > > We're a F/LOSS group, so if the subject (even, if the speaker/sponsor) > is not aligned, we shouldn't... I agree. That's why EC2 credits seems the most useful thing for us. Once a Linux VM is running it doesn't make a lot of difference where it runs as long as the firewall lets all necessary data through. -- My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/ From dwight at wwwalker.com.au Mon Apr 4 19:44:56 2022 From: dwight at wwwalker.com.au (Dwight Walker) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2022 19:44:56 +1000 Subject: [Flounder] AWS In-Reply-To: <21700994.YPtspjviQL@xev> References: <2995627.jIdKl4pDzP@xev> <21700994.YPtspjviQL@xev> Message-ID: AWS has or supports free opensource tools with its API: 1) Python AWS CLI https://pypi.org/project/awscli/ 2) Perl AWS CLI https://www.timkay.com/aws/ https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/developer/hello-perl-developers/ PAWS 3) bash AWS CLI https://github.com/bash-my-aws/bash-my-aws/ On Mon, April 4, 2022 19:29, Russell Coker via Flounder wrote: > On Monday, 4 April 2022 19:05:53 AEST DL Neil via Flounder wrote: >> > AWS credits could be useful, instead of messing around with port >> > forwarding >> > etc we could just run on EC2. Also given the number of people here >> I'm >> > surely not the only one with AWS experience so if I'm not well enough >> to >> > set things up properly (as was the case last Saturday) then someone >> else >> > could take over. >> > >> > What do you think? >> >> I'm wary of AWS. Aren't they keen to 'take' benefit from F/LOSS projects >> but slower to make any (useful) return? >> >> We're a F/LOSS group, so if the subject (even, if the speaker/sponsor) >> is not aligned, we shouldn't... > > I agree. That's why EC2 credits seems the most useful thing for us. Once > a > Linux VM is running it doesn't make a lot of difference where it runs as > long > as the firewall lets all necessary data through. > > -- > My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ > My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/ > > _______________________________________________ > Flounder mailing list > Flounder at lists.linux.org.au > http://lists.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/flounder > -- Dwight Walker WWWalker Web Development Pty Ltd https://wwwalker.com.au From ianbrown78 at gmail.com Mon Apr 4 19:52:17 2022 From: ianbrown78 at gmail.com (Ian Brown) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2022 19:52:17 +1000 Subject: [Flounder] AWS In-Reply-To: <21700994.YPtspjviQL@xev> References: <2995627.jIdKl4pDzP@xev> <21700994.YPtspjviQL@xev> Message-ID: I wouldn?t entertain the idea of having AWS speak as I don?t find them too friendly to the OSS community. If people are interested in cloud talks, I could ask some Rackspace or Binary Lane folks (Openstack) if they would present. What about talks around CI/CD for cloud providers? (I assume we have some developers in the group.) Cheers, Ian On Mon, 4 Apr 2022 at 19:29, Russell Coker via Flounder < flounder at lists.linux.org.au> wrote: > On Monday, 4 April 2022 19:05:53 AEST DL Neil via Flounder wrote: > > > AWS credits could be useful, instead of messing around with port > > > forwarding > > > etc we could just run on EC2. Also given the number of people here I'm > > > surely not the only one with AWS experience so if I'm not well enough > to > > > set things up properly (as was the case last Saturday) then someone > else > > > could take over. > > > > > > What do you think? > > > > I'm wary of AWS. Aren't they keen to 'take' benefit from F/LOSS projects > > but slower to make any (useful) return? > > > > We're a F/LOSS group, so if the subject (even, if the speaker/sponsor) > > is not aligned, we shouldn't... > > I agree. That's why EC2 credits seems the most useful thing for us. Once > a > Linux VM is running it doesn't make a lot of difference where it runs as > long > as the firewall lets all necessary data through. > > -- > My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ > My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/ > > _______________________________________________ > Flounder mailing list > Flounder at lists.linux.org.au > http://lists.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/flounder > -- Regards, Ian Brown E: ianbrown78 at gmail.com M: 0408 548 194 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From russell at coker.com.au Mon Apr 4 20:37:56 2022 From: russell at coker.com.au (Russell Coker) Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2022 20:37:56 +1000 Subject: [Flounder] AWS In-Reply-To: References: <2995627.jIdKl4pDzP@xev> <21700994.YPtspjviQL@xev> Message-ID: <2277354.zGkEiKn1Km@xev> On Monday, 4 April 2022 19:52:17 AEST Ian Brown wrote: > I wouldn?t entertain the idea of having AWS speak as I don?t find them too > friendly to the OSS community. I'm not that opposed to them, I think if they can give a good talk about MySQL or PostgreSQL stuff that applies to platforms other than their own then that would be OK. That said my aim is not to be the dictator of this group, if the consensus is against something then we will choose something else. > If people are interested in cloud talks, I could ask some Rackspace or > Binary Lane folks (Openstack) if they would present. That could be useful. Although I'd like this group to give benefits that can't be obtained by watching lectures on YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/c/rackspace/playlists Rackspace has many videos on YouTube. https://access.redhat.com/articles/1127153 I believe that RackSpace runs on a customised version of OpenStack which requires bare metal to run on and takes about 1.5 hours for a single node (demo only) setup. Maybe we could do something based on that if we can find an OpenStack expert willing to coordinate things. AWS provides bare-metal instances which could be used for that or people could use their own systems if they have suitable spare hardware. Red Hat's stated minimum hardware for OpenStack is 2G of RAM and 20G of storage. I have systems much better than that to give away and probably whatever region you are in there's someone like me giving away computers. > What about talks around CI/CD for cloud providers? (I assume we have some > developers in the group.) Sure if we can find experts for it. -- My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/ From russell at coker.com.au Tue Apr 5 22:24:41 2022 From: russell at coker.com.au (Russell Coker) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2022 22:24:41 +1000 Subject: [Flounder] Fwd: Federation Message-ID: <2406802.pXMAVtheiV@xev> LUV had a meeting tonight about Federation, in response I wrote the following message to the LUV list. Some of it is relevant to this list. ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: Federation Date: Tuesday, 5 April 2022, 22:23:44 AEST From: Russell Coker To: luv-main at luv.asn.au https://nzoss.nz/online-services The New Zealand Open Source society runs some online services for Open Source type people, they specify New Zealanders but they gave me a Mastodon account and I think all LUV members would be welcome. I won't rule out the possibility of running a LUV Mastodon server and Mastodon is specifically designed for account migration so we could change to some future time. But NZOSS are doing a good job and I don't think I need to make more work for myself at this time. Mastodon is the federated replacement for Twitter. It supports ~500 character "Toots" by default and that can be increased by the site admin. So a lot of what is done on Facebook can be done on Mastodon. I know one man who was looking for an alternative to Facebook, I pointed him to Mastodon as part of the solution to his problem. He decided that while Mastodon wasn't designed to do what Facebook does it can be made to do the things he really wanted to do so he didn't need anything else. YMMV. Here's my Mastodon address: @etbe at mastodon.nzoss.nz Here's the web page for my Mastodon feed so you can read it without a Mastodon account: https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/@etbe I currently use the Tusky Android client from the f-droid repository and the web interface on the desktop. I have to find a suitable client for Librem5. I haven't done much with Mastodon yet. Toot me something worth replying to. ;) Matrix is the federated chat system that also does video chats, it's a replacement for Slack, Facebook Messenger, Skype, etc. My Matrix address is: @etbe:luv.asn.au The LUV room on Matrix is: #luv_chat:luv.asn.au The Linux Australia IRC channel is bridged to Matrix: #linuxaus:matrix.org This Matrix room is for representatives of different LUGs: #linuxaus-lugs:matrix.org The Flounder room is: #flounder:luv.asn.au you can get answers to Linux questions there at most times of the day and night. Anyone who wants a Matrix account can email me off-list with the preferred account name. The LUV server is pretty much idle at the moment so we can do lots of other things. I use the SchildiChat program on Android from the f- droid repository for most of my Matrix stuff. I haven't yet selected Debian Matrix clients for desktop and Librem5. Matrix currently uses Jitsi for audio and video chat. The LUV server uses the Perthchat Jitsi server. This URL has our side of the configuration for Jitsi: https://luv.asn.au/.well-known/matrix/client The URL isn't normally for human reading, but it's plain text and it's meaning is obvious. Most of the federated systems discussed tonight are things I don't have a personal interest in using. My past experiements have indicated to me that unless I really push something it won't get much traction in LUV. We had experiments with Diaspora and Mobilizon (which I didn't use) and they didn't take off. The LUV Matrix server didn't get much use for the first 1.5 years (I set it up in 2020). I think this is because there are several categories of potential users. There are people who want to run their own server, people who want to use a large public server, and people who are interested in using a smaller server tailored to people they know. A LUV server will get the third category of users and most of them aren't too unhappy with using Facebook etc if it basically works. https://join-lemmy.org/ I think that the concept of Lemmy is good (I haven't tried using it). It's designed as a Reddit or Slashdot replacement which means that it does part of what Facebook does. Lemmy, Mastodon, and Matrix combined cover most of the scope of Facebook. Facebook does lots of things NOT because those things are best done together (although there are some benefits to having the same system for multiple things) but to prevent competition. Using separate services for the things you might use Facebook for is viable. I'm thinking of setting up Lemmy as a LUV service to see how it goes. -- My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/ ----------------------------------------- -- My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/ From NZOSS at etelligence.info Thu Apr 7 08:09:14 2022 From: NZOSS at etelligence.info (DL Neil) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2022 10:09:14 +1200 Subject: [Flounder] VPS performance Message-ID: <51d959e7-ac6f-ead5-0e82-c1e9af736c7f@etelligence.info> I am wondering if the performance of a couple of my (European) VPSes have (consistently) degraded in recent times. There may be many reasons. Some related to work-load (which hasn't really changed, ignoring the vagaries of email transactions and web-visitors). The ones that concern are related to the service-provider's fabric - yet not wishing to blame them for issues on the Internet between 'here' and 'there'... What tool(s) do you use to monitor and record response-time, eg several times per day, over months? -- Regards, =dn From ianbrown78 at gmail.com Thu Apr 7 08:32:18 2022 From: ianbrown78 at gmail.com (Ian Brown) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2022 08:32:18 +1000 Subject: [Flounder] VPS performance In-Reply-To: <51d959e7-ac6f-ead5-0e82-c1e9af736c7f@etelligence.info> References: <51d959e7-ac6f-ead5-0e82-c1e9af736c7f@etelligence.info> Message-ID: I have used a few different ones over the years. But I will stick to the most recent ones I have used in a Corporate/Enterprise environment. I currently have NewRelic APM (free account) running on some software I have built (Ruby on Rails). This is an awesome tool for showing the last 30 days of application performance and any errors or latency issues that arise within the application. If you need more than 30 days worth of stats, you will need to pay for the tool. NR also does infrastructure monitoring, however I find it very expensive compared to others in the market. If you just want generic server ping time monitoring, then either pingdom.com (paid) or a Nagios machine that runs a simple tcp connection to the website every x seconds would suffice. Nagios can do a lot of stuff which is why it is my go-to for server performance monitoring. Hope this helps. Cheers, Ian On Thu, Apr 7, 2022 at 8:09 AM DL Neil via Flounder < flounder at lists.linux.org.au> wrote: > I am wondering if the performance of a couple of my (European) VPSes > have (consistently) degraded in recent times. > > There may be many reasons. Some related to work-load (which hasn't > really changed, ignoring the vagaries of email transactions and > web-visitors). The ones that concern are related to the > service-provider's fabric - yet not wishing to blame them for issues on > the Internet between 'here' and 'there'... > > What tool(s) do you use to monitor and record response-time, eg several > times per day, over months? > -- > Regards, > =dn > _______________________________________________ > Flounder mailing list > Flounder at lists.linux.org.au > http://lists.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/flounder > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From NZOSS at etelligence.info Mon Apr 11 07:30:20 2022 From: NZOSS at etelligence.info (DL Neil) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2022 09:30:20 +1200 Subject: [Flounder] VPS performance In-Reply-To: References: <51d959e7-ac6f-ead5-0e82-c1e9af736c7f@etelligence.info> Message-ID: Thanks for this. You'll (not) be surprised that shortly after I sent-in a grump, VPS response-time improved. Theory: they weren't watching their own logs... Have added NewRelic to list of things to investigate... On 07/04/2022 10.32, Ian Brown via Flounder wrote: > I have used a few different ones over the years. But I will stick to the > most recent ones I have used in?a Corporate/Enterprise environment. > > I currently?have NewRelic APM (free account) running on some software I > have built (Ruby on Rails). This is an awesome tool for showing the last > 30 days of application performance and any errors or latency issues that > arise within the application. If you need more than 30 days worth of > stats, you will need to pay for the tool. NR also does infrastructure > monitoring,?however I find it very expensive compared to others in the > market. > > If you just want generic server ping time monitoring, then either > pingdom.com (paid) or a Nagios machine that runs a > simple tcp connection to the website every x seconds would suffice. > Nagios can do a lot of stuff which is why it is my go-to for server > performance monitoring. > > Hope this helps. > > Cheers, > Ian > > On Thu, Apr 7, 2022 at 8:09 AM DL Neil via Flounder > > wrote: > > I am wondering if the performance of a couple of my (European) VPSes > have (consistently) degraded in recent times. > > There may be many reasons. Some related to work-load (which hasn't > really changed, ignoring the vagaries of email transactions and > web-visitors). The ones that concern are related to the > service-provider's fabric - yet not wishing to blame them for issues on > the Internet between 'here' and 'there'... > > What tool(s) do you use to monitor and record response-time, eg several > times per day, over months? -- Regards =dn From NZOSS at etelligence.info Wed Apr 13 10:16:34 2022 From: NZOSS at etelligence.info (DL Neil) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2022 12:16:34 +1200 Subject: [Flounder] Email tutorial Message-ID: <43ee315e-0727-fe66-e704-75744c6f52c1@etelligence.info> Have been following Russell's "Postfix Training" tutorial, per our last meeting. Using my own multi-domain VPS, had Postfix, Certbot, Dovecot, SASL, etc, working happily. SPF, DKIM, and DMARC were working on out-bound messages. DKIM also on in-bound. AntiSpam/SPF became a headache because of differences between apt and yum (repos/distros). When first installed, it rejected every msg in a most spiteful fashion. Went round and around - apparently not the first CentOS user to fall-foul with this, but eventually got it working. What a clever chap!/? SpamAssassin had been set-up previously, but in a different fashion from the tutorial: master.cf smtp inet n - n - - smtpd -o content_filter=spamassassin and spamassassin unix - n n - - pipe flags=R user=spamd argv=/usr/bin/spamc -e /usr/sbin/sendmail -oi -f ${sender} ${recipient} Are there inherent [dis]advantages either way? Would the milter method clash with the DKIM milter, or once organised into a sequence would they co-exist happily? The system has no /etc/default/spamass* file. Are the options taken care-of, or is there another way? The GTUBE pattern is appropriately marked as spam. So, happy bunnies all-around... -- Regards =dn From NZOSS at etelligence.info Wed Apr 13 14:38:49 2022 From: NZOSS at etelligence.info (DL Neil) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2022 16:38:49 +1200 Subject: [Flounder] Email tutorial: DKIM Message-ID: <8fc2f1e2-045d-bad2-d445-ad5ede7359c5@etelligence.info> Russell's tutorial, from our last meeting is incomplete when it comes to DKIM-signing. However, I found a number of alternatives to (compare and) follow. Where is there reliable information/tutorial about the use of header keys? 1 The state of the nation, um, server Postfix+OpenDKIM is currently pushing-out: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=DOMAIN_NAME; -- which varies by domain s=...; -- varies t=...; bh=...; h=Date:From:Subject:To:From; b=...; 2 Results According to email-headers received, these settings are reported twice in message-headers. Should they? Why? 3 Differences between two DKIM-Signature reports The differences between the two are in the t= and b= clauses (one assumes if the time is different, the hash will be also). Is that it? 4 DNS settings The domain dns TXT records supply: " v=DKIM1; k=rsa; p=... -- varies " Why does the TXT record say "k=rsa" when the email headers report "a=rsa-sha256". Are they reporting the same value, and if so, why the different one-character key-names? 5 Which header fields to sign? Searching-about, I failed to find any place which discusses the where/why/how of altering the default Signature Content (listed above). Do you have a reference please? 6 How to alter them? In fact, that failure compounded by a lack of any resource saying that this should be accomplished in the dmarc TXT record of the domain's DNS. Is it not possible to alter the default settings at the server-level (rather than amending TXT records for every single domain)? 7 Which ones to use? The part that bugs me, is that one could go to a lot of trouble to set-up DKIM to be 'nice and pretty', but as soon as a message is submitted to a mailing-list/reflector things can become very messed-up, eg the message is no-longer coming from my domain, and likely has had list-admin headers added. There was a lot of discussion/complaint about this, back when DKIM was being introduced (or imposed by big, ugly, players). However, again, I failed to find something up-to-date which ensures that we can all (now) live in peace. Are you aware of anything helpful, please? 8 In-lieu of advice, went looking [for trouble] Drawing-a-blank on the web, left me inspecting the headers of email-messages received. This revealed that whilst only a comparative-few use DKIM, there was quite a variation in which headers people have set (I could create a spreadsheet to illustrate this, starting from the plain-vanilla 'Recommendations' from RFC 6376 5.4 "Determine the Header Fields to Sign"). What is an innocent, little, boy supposed to do? 9 DNS experiment Experimenting with the DKIM TXT record for one of my domains, inside the quotation-marks, I added: h=In-Reply-To:Sender:Reply-To; Running https://www.dmarcanalyzer.com/dkim/dkim-checker produces the result "This seems to be a valid DKIM Record". Sending to ProtonMail, they report Authentication-Results: ... dkim=fail ... reason="unknown key hash" (0-bit key), which is rather worrying. Do you think it because I've been too eager/fast for dns propagation? 10 Comparisons Running https://www.dmarcanalyzer.com/dkim/dkim-checker to compare two domains: - an 'untouched' domain's DNS-TXT was reported to have "Declared tags" v, p, and k. Meantime, "h" was described amongst the "Defaulted tags" with an explanation of what the tag means, but not what the default-values are. - the 'augmented' DNS-TXT was reported to have h amongst the "Declared tags" with values of "In-Reply-To:Sender:Reply-To", as you would expect. Again, no comment about any other values, or those provided by-default. Sending a message to ProtonMail and looking at headers, messages from the domain augmented with "h=In-Reply-To:Sender:Reply-To;" are still showing: h=Date:From:Subject:To:From; (in both cases). Does this suggest that Postfix/OpenDKIM is not looking at the domain's DNS-TXT record when it creates the hash? Thus, is some corresponding setting required somewhere within the server-config? Phew! Isn't this email-admin stuff 'fun'? -- Regards, =dn From russell at coker.com.au Sat Apr 16 11:22:16 2022 From: russell at coker.com.au (Russell Coker) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2022 11:22:16 +1000 Subject: [Flounder] meeting today 1pm Melbourne time Message-ID: <2508949.Lt9SDvczpP@liv> Meeting starts in 1 hour and 40 minutes. I have Covid so can't speak, but I'll be there textually. -- My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/ From russell at coker.com.au Sat Apr 16 16:27:31 2022 From: russell at coker.com.au (Russell Coker) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2022 16:27:31 +1000 Subject: [Flounder] email reminders Message-ID: <1861165.taCxCBeP46@liv> How often should we send reminders of future meetings and how many reminders? -- My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/ From ianbrown78 at gmail.com Sat Apr 16 17:17:15 2022 From: ianbrown78 at gmail.com (Ian Brown) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2022 17:17:15 +1000 Subject: [Flounder] email reminders In-Reply-To: <1861165.taCxCBeP46@liv> References: <1861165.taCxCBeP46@liv> Message-ID: I think there should be one at the start of the week of the meeting and then another the day before. We could, if warranted, send one an hour prior with the link. But three might be too many. Cheers, Ian On Sat, 16 Apr 2022 at 16:27, Russell Coker via Flounder < flounder at lists.linux.org.au> wrote: > How often should we send reminders of future meetings and how many > reminders? > > -- > My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ > My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Flounder mailing list > Flounder at lists.linux.org.au > http://lists.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/flounder > -- Regards, Ian Brown E: ianbrown78 at gmail.com M: 0408 548 194 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From NZOSS at etelligence.info Sat Apr 16 20:09:57 2022 From: NZOSS at etelligence.info (DL Neil) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2022 22:09:57 +1200 Subject: [Flounder] email reminders In-Reply-To: References: <1861165.taCxCBeP46@liv> Message-ID: <447d5e89-33f7-00c7-1dfc-443058af2432@etelligence.info> On 16/04/2022 19.17, Ian Brown via Flounder wrote: > I think there should be one at the start of the week of the meeting and > then another the day before. > > We could, if warranted, send one an hour prior with the link. > > But three might be too many. +1 -- Regards =dn -- Regards =dn From ycp at gnu.org Thu Apr 21 23:03:43 2022 From: ycp at gnu.org (Yuchen Pei) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2022 23:03:43 +1000 Subject: [Flounder] Online guix packaging meetup Message-ID: <87y1zysi4w.fsf@gnu.org> Hello, GNU Guix () is an functional package manager, like Nix but using Scheme as the packaging language. Guix System is the corresponding GNU/Linux distribution, and one of the most popular FSDG distributions: https://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.html Guix has an active and friendly community, and from time to time online packaging meetups are organised. 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URL: From domainadmin at etelligence.info Sat Apr 16 20:09:11 2022 From: domainadmin at etelligence.info (domainadmin) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2022 10:09:11 -0000 Subject: [Flounder] email reminders In-Reply-To: References: <1861165.taCxCBeP46@liv> Message-ID: <3932996e-36bf-65a0-6294-0e814283ad1d@etelligence.info> On 16/04/2022 19.17, Ian Brown via Flounder wrote: > I think there should be one at the start of the week of the meeting and > then another the day before. > > We could, if warranted, send one an hour prior with the link. > > But three might be too many. +1 -- Regards =dn