> I can change it kdesu kate password and save and exit

Congratulations you can use an editor

> I don't really want to change anythign nor an upgrade if I can help it 

So don't. knoppix is reasonably up to date out of the box..
if you want a secure supported OS install DEBIAN stable. ( that means 
kde 2.2 and xfree 4.2 and yes that's old) you can either have the new
shiny stuff or a secure machine not both.
> just to patch for the Internet and security
> If I can remove this from the source list and if I don't need I can do 
> that too

You can just comment things you don't need/want using #
> 
> # Java
> 
> deb ftp://ftp.au.debian.org/pub/languages/java/linux/debian woody main 
> non-free
> 
> deb-src ftp://ftp.au.debian.org/pub/languages/java/linux/debian woody 
> main non-free
> 
> deb ftp://ftp.au.debian.org/pub/languages/java/linux/debian unstable 
> main non-free
> 
> deb-src ftp://ftp.au.debian.org/pub/languages/java/linux/debian unstable 
> main non-free
> 
> # deb http://people.debian.org/~sgybas/jdk13
> 
All the above relate to java. if you don't want to use them put a # at
the start of the line in question.

On the note of email formating. Internet best practice is to wrap at 72 
columns which allows for a few levels of reply before causeing ugly
wrapping.  now as most clients can wrap messages properly this isn't
such a big issue.. but it's still nice.
> No command lines needed
Not required debian should change for daylight savings automatically.

On all computerbank shipped systems anyway.

If you install your own system then that's different ;)

Well thats funny I had to change the time on it from the Computerbank system before any way as it was wrong

Gee and maybe I'm doing Ok being able to install my own system that got the Printer and Scanner 
working straight away and it only took 40 mins

I have seen postings from persons who do not have a Computerbank Computer and ohter distrabutions on this list and
what are we not alowed to experiment and try other Linux things.  Not so long ago someone told me they were looking a RedHat distrabution 
and apparently CBV looks at other possiblities, maybe nothing is suitable at the moment, but maybe one day there could be

There seems to be a gap for Newbies information and getting thing just done.  
A lot of Techies don't use or know about GUI and I am trying right or wrong  to fill a void
 almost every Linux User admits that Command lines even if you are familar with DOS take years to learn

What if you just want to use things now and get things done?

There is always another option to doing things and I think the programers who make this GUI stuff would love to know people are using it

I also said how you can change the look and feel of the clock

Its just an alternative.

The rule I was given is there is no support if you put Windows on not another Debian
At least I stayed with debian its not that different

I now have a boot floppy and Knoppix to try and solve any more  problems

It ment that I didn't have to take in the box to CBV and tie them up and I didn't have to lug it in 2 hours on the train and then back again
I found a way that I could be more self sufficient and I can learn from my mistakes

There is more than one way to skin a cat there is several ways to patternmake a garment There are many ways to sew it
So therefore there are many ways to use your Computer to get things done
until I or others learn more on Command lines it may be useful to know where th GUI programs are and how to use them
There are so many Graphical  User Interface GUI programs on the Box CBV distro or Knoppix it seems a shame not to use them
Or to know that they are there.
Otherwise why are putting them on?

As a friend of mine on Luv has just this minute emailed me its the GUI's that will get the general Public using Linux and
he thought that in the last few years that Linux GUI are getting better than Microsoft which he has to use at work

so I will continue to  post GUI's to help Newbies or other crossing over from Microsoft someone might find it doing a google search
I am sure it will help someone

Avery

cbsupport-admin@lists.linux.org.au wrote on 30/10/2003
01:24:41 AM:

> Grant wrote
> > No command lines needed

> Not required debian should change for daylight savings automatically.

> 

> On all computerbank shipped systems anyway.

> 

> If you install your own system then that's different ;)

>   
> Well thats funny I had to change the time on
it from the 

> Computerbank system before any way as it was wrong

> 

Hi Avery,
This will change the time, but not fix your underlying
problem.
To change the timezone so dst changes automatically,
in Debian from a command line, type tzselect (or tzconfig or tzsetup),
and select the appropriate options. you must be logged in as root.
I am sorry, but I don't know enough about kde to know
if/where the gui option would be.
--snip--

> 

> There seems to be a gap for Newbies information and getting thing
just done.  

> A lot of Techies don't use or know about GUI and I am trying right

> or wrong  to fill a void

>  almost every Linux User admits that Command lines even if you
are 

> familar with DOS take years to learn
I remember when I first started using Linux, the command
line was not easy, however with experience it does get easier. As I mentioned
earlier I do not know GUI as I don't often use it, my main interaction
with Linux is connecting over the internet with SSH for command line stuff
(It beats ANY windows remote administration as I can do things 5 times
quicker!)
> 

> What if you just want to use things now and get things done?

> 

> There is always another option to doing things and I think the 

> programers who make this GUI stuff would love to know people are using
it

> 

> I also said how you can change the look and feel of the clock

> 

> Its just an alternative.

> 

There are many alternative applications/options in Linux, Thats why it
is such a great OS, OHH the choices!
> The rule I was given is there is no support if
you put Windows on 

> not another Debian

> At least I stayed with debian its not that different

> 
> I now have a boot floppy and Knoppix to try and
solve any more  problems

> 

> It ment that I didn't have to take in the box to CBV and tie them
up

> and I didn't have to lug it in 2 hours on the train and then back
again

> I found a way that I could be more self sufficient and I can learn

> from my mistakes

> 
Thats the way I learnt, at one stage with no help
I must have installed Linux 5 times in 2 weeks, as I kept breaking things
(Well, I thought they were broken)

> There is more than one way to skin a cat there is several ways to

> patternmake a garment There are many ways to sew it

> So therefore there are many ways to use your Computer to get things
done

> until I or others learn more on Command lines it may be useful to

> know where th GUI programs are and how to use them

> There are so many Graphical  User Interface GUI programs on the
Box 

> CBV distro or Knoppix it seems a shame not to use them

> Or to know that they are there.

> Otherwise why are putting them on?

> 

> As a friend of mine on Luv has just this minute emailed me its the

> GUI's that will get the general Public using Linux and

> he thought that in the last few years that Linux GUI are getting 

> better than Microsoft which he has to use at work

> 

The GUI is not the only problem with Linux vs Microsoft, its compatibility
but the OSS programmers are getting close though.
> so I will continue to  post GUI's to help
Newbies or other crossing 

> over from Microsoft someone might find it doing a google search

> I am sure it will help someone

Thanks!
Scott
> 

> Avery