[Linux-aus] Linux Australia Code of Conduct
brent.wallis at gmail.com
Tue Nov 29 14:49:29 EST 2011
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 2:12 PM, Russell Coker <russell at coker.com.au> wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Nov 2011, Brent Wallis <brent.wallis at gmail.com> wrote:
> > But does not any conference in Australia have to adhere to their state/NZ
> > equivalent of Worksafe (as is called in VIC)?
> > If so, then would not the framework associated with such institutions be
> > sufficient?
> Presumably conferences such as "Sexpo" comply with all relevant worksafe
> But the consensus of opinion is that we don't want LCA to be like Sexpo
> though it would be quite legal to do so provided that children were
But surely a G rating would cover this?
> So it seems quite clear that the minimum standards of workplace
> legislation do
> not address the issues that are being addressed by the CoC.
Not so sure on that one.
Based on the discussions so far, I would say that just about all situations
would be covered by Worksafe and a G rating.
Is there a specific example that wouldn't?
> > Rules concerning bullying and discrimination are already there.
> > What's more, these rules are backed up by real laws with real bite should
> > the need arise.
> Of course there is nothing stopping someone from making complaints to the
> police about criminal behavior. In fact the CoC indicates that the
> organisers will assist in filing a police report if appropriate.
> One thing to note is that criminal cases take a long time to process and
> sexual offenses the probability of getting a conviction is extremely low.
Via Worksafe, the process is very rapid.
When the conference organisers deal with the issue they can do so rapidly
> not be subject to a misogynist judge who thinks that the victim deserved
Conference organisers could still act immediately.
The law and consequences would come later.
Surely we are not qualified to make judgements on what could or could not
happen in a court of law?
> IMHO the conference (any conference) is a place of work, and individual
> > behaviour should adhere to the same rules as any place of work.
> > Would that not cover what is needed?
> Every company that I have worked for has had some sort of CoC that
> significantly exceeded the legal requirements. It may not have been
> but everyone has a good idea of what is acceptable.
> One could argue that what you talk about here is company culture, not a
The code provides the framework for a culture to develop.
Why should LCA be different from all the other workplaces which have rules
> that are more strict than legally required?
No need to be.
There is nothing I can find in the current proposals that would not be
A G rating.
Adherence to the relevant Worksafe laws.
My suggestions here are about "leveraging" protections and laws that are
already in place to achieve the required outcome.
A form of code re-use if you will.
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