From bogus@does.not.exist.com Tue Apr 3 04:38:12 2007 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2007 04:38:12 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: FYI... I thought some of you would be interested in this. I find it interesting, as over here in the USA, Microsoft is just a little too close to running the country... http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-200-6996393.html?tag=st.ne.1003.saslnk.saseml Eric Previous messages: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Australia-wide/messages From bogus@does.not.exist.com Tue Apr 3 04:38:12 2007 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2007 04:38:12 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: concerns such as training next days system builds and answering support calls suck up most of the time. John Habermann On Thursday 06 September 2001 04:13 pm, Don Cameron wrote: > Ahhh, > > Sorry for diving in here, but Sally is a WA Community Development > Practitioner highly regarded throughout Australia for her work - Sally > approached CB on the recommendations of Bruce, myself, and others involved > in Australian rural revitalisation efforts - She is very real, very well > respected both within the community framework and by Governments of all > persuasions, and is a person of the highest character. > > Don Cameron > > ---- Original Message ----- > From: "Terry Collins" > To: "Bruce McCubbery" > Cc: > Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 3:24 PM > Subject: Re: [Computerbank] bad vibe unfortunately > > > Do we really want the Sally's of this world > > And is Sally for real or just a scam merchant pushing another project or > > private interest. > > _______________________________________________ > computerbank mailing list > computerbank at lists.linux.org.au > http://lists.linux.org.au/listinfo/computerbank From bogus@does.not.exist.com Tue Apr 3 04:38:12 2007 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2007 04:38:12 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: to help you? You and Gold Coast Bill and Rob of Snug seem to be around about the same stage of development. All similar in probably several ways? Where would your physical centre be? Bruce Bruce McCubbery Can Internet Australians influence Australia? http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Australia-wide At 19:31 26/09/01 +1000, marktri wrote: >I am both Melbourne, and North East Victoria. There is a building >interest from Wangaratta through to Mount Beauty. I have friends in >Wang, Myrtleford and around Bright, but we are all relative beginners. >Getting beginners together is a start, as we can all find different >things and share them and learn faster than on our own. My major problem >is spending too much time helping M$ Windows users, and not enough using >Linux myself. I also have a full time job in Melbourne and looking after >my father and a country property near Bright. While I do rent a unit in >Melbourne, the travel times eat into the weekends. > >I would suggest that there be an endeavour to find the scattered Linux >users, and help put locals in touch with one another. From this, groups >can form that can support Computerbank. > >I also see a need for real beginners books, not the "Dummies" or the >"Pocketbooks". They are a start, but I see a need for something that >introduces the underlying philosopies and structures. With a sound >understanding of the foundations, a lot of the rest is much easier, it >fits a pattern. > >Comparing to driving a car, while it is far from necessary to be able to >rebuild the engine, it does help to understand how it works. Having made >one, possibly unsuccessful, attempt at a major mechanical service task, >there is a much better appreciation and respect for the mechanicals. >Similarly, having had a go at panel beating tends to reduce the >accidents. > >Regards, Mark Trickett From bogus@does.not.exist.com Tue Apr 3 04:38:12 2007 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2007 04:38:12 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: >As I said, Computerbank comes up in many discussions and forums that I >attend and there is a large amount of interest here. Good to know, hey? Bruce From bogus@does.not.exist.com Tue Apr 3 04:38:12 2007 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2007 04:38:12 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Sydney? Whatever, can each of you guys please list your three biggest needs, so we (just might be able to) can help you? Anyone in those states not up with the latest, watch on here or perhaps contact now: >Tony Joblin (QLD) tonyjoblin at yahoo.com.au >Romana Challans and Shaun Branden (SA) cbsa at linunix.com >Craig Warner (NSW) craigw at blue.net.au It seems you can finally get firing now? Regards, Bruce From bogus@does.not.exist.com Tue Apr 3 04:38:12 2007 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2007 04:38:12 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: http://www.ourcommunity.com.au/index.jsp For Australia's 700,000 community, education and non-profit groups by providing funding advice, a free online donations & volunteers service and practical information. "We provide the way forward with practical products and services" Grants & Fundraising Are you missing out on money? Need a grant to expand or extend your community services, stage a local event? Looking for help with raising funds? Or seeking the most extensive and up-to-date grants and scholarship database in Australia? [much more on the site] From bogus@does.not.exist.com Tue Apr 3 04:38:12 2007 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2007 04:38:12 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Hi, My name is Mark Shepherd and I am the Projects Manager at the City of Mandurah. We are currently in the process of refurbishing the Billy Dower Youth Centre and as part of the process we intend to provide office space for youth agencies to co-locate with us at the Centre. As part of the process we will advertise seeking registrations of interest from youth agencies to co-locate at the Centre. We will advertise in the West and in the local newspaper, but I am looking for a more direct method to get the word out to those agencies who might be interested. I would appreciate any help you can give e.g. suitable publications to advertise in, inclusion onto your web site which I have heard is very good and well used and details on any youth agencies you think may be interested. Please call me on (08) 9550 3719 or email at mark-s at mandurah.wa.gov.au, if you would like to discuss this opportunity further. Regards Mark Shepherd ----------------------------------------- yGAS is at http://au.groups.yahoo.com/group/youthgas YouthGAS is networking, resources, information, opportunities, events, contacts and collaboration for young people, youth groups and the youth sector in Australia and is at http://www.youthgas.com/ From bogus@does.not.exist.com Tue Apr 3 04:38:12 2007 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2007 04:38:12 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: cbv-barebox, cbv-basicdesktop, cbv-laptop, cbv-officedesktop. These packages were set up to call in dependencies which would install all the required software simply by selecting one (or two) of the cbv-* packages. With this method the package install proceeds with a few questions to answer along the way. Then all that is required is what we call the final configuration, which essentially is a volunteer sitting down at the newly installed machine and setting up user accounts, checking that the monitor and floppy work OK, and checking/fine tuning the user desktop etc. There is no reason why this couldn't be extended by creating more computerbank specific packages with different contents to suit different types of machines and adding them to the same package selection list. Of course, this approach assumes an internal network. Several others have discussed the choice of distribution, and the options seem to be narrowing to either RedHat or Debian - from memory Mandrake is optimised for Pentiums and won't install on 486's (?). I'd like to put in a plug for Debian. As outlined above, it lends itself to customised network installs, and I have found the package installation management tools way ahead of the rpm based distributions, even though some people might be put off by the non GUI installation interface. As someone else commented, once you have stepped through the install a couple of times, it all starts to make sense. Now I'm happy to admit that I'm not a rpm expert, but I have tried to install software packages on both Mandrake and RedHat after an initial setup has completed. Maybe I'm unlucky, but I have frequently selected a package or two only to have the rpm installer come up with a message to the effect that "I can't install package A because it requires package B which is not installed" and quits. Sometimes it just gives a file name, eg/. libsensor.so.1, and I have no idea which rpm package contains the missing file. In the same situation with Debian, the installer has enough smarts to find out if package B is available, and if it is, will duly download and install package B followed by package A. Otherwise it emits a generally intelligent error message. The decrease in frustration level is significant, especially if you are running against the clock to complete an installation for a recipient to take home! Regardless of the distribution, all package managers will have some gotchas, and while Debian may have other management issues they seem to be ones which are amenable to a standard fix which then becomes part of a routine install. Such fixes do need to be documented, however. I suppose my pre-occupation with package management is because that is what I find myself using most frequently to get systems installed. As to the contents of the software packages, there is generally enough disk space if the machine meets the current minimum hardware specs to include a good range of "user oriented" software. Again from memory, a typical cbv installation includes the word processors abiword and ted, with StarOffice if specifically requested - we train only on abiword at the moment - the gnumeric spreadsheet, the dia diagramming tool, the gimp, a typing tutor (xterm based but set up as a Gnome panel button), Netscape communicator, xchat, and the GNOME desktop with its utilities. There are probably others that I can't recall off the cuff. There are also a couple of packages that ease the use of Microsoft Word generated files, but that is a separate topic in itself. In addition to the above user oriented stuff, cbv also install some items which would be useful if any support people need to work with the machine on site. As standard, an account called admin is set up for such an occasion. The tools available are console editors vi and joe, together with utilities to allow remote access and general troubleshooting. These tools, being console based, don't take up much extra space and can be very useful in an emergency. Low end machines - generally if a machine meets our current minimum hardware specs for GUI installs then Gnome will usually be useable - not quick, but useable. The critical thing here is memory - I have run GNOME on a 586 with 16MB RAM and then with 48MB RAM and the difference is significant enough to allow an upgrade from Netscape 3.x to Netscape 4.x. 32MB seems to be the minimum acceptable for useable performance using GNOME, don't know about KDE (yet). The question then becomes - do we rigorously enforce our minimum specs for recipient machines ? Also, there seem to be a couple of gotchas going forward. As with all software, improvements and more features mean greater computing resources are needed. So we are beginning to see the emergence of linux apps which are resource hogs when run on typical computerbank recipient machines. This seems to apply to both Gnome and kde specific apps. If the hardware requirements outpace the type of hardware we have available, we will have to revisit the software load question, probably with a view to carefully selecting compatible components and putting them together with an efficient window manager, eg/. icewm. With respect to kickstart etc - I may be on the wrong tram here but my impression is that these type of mass installers are intended for machines which are pretty much identical in hardware specs - how would they go installing two machines, say one with a Pentium 200 and 48MB RAM, and one a 486DX/100 with 32 MB RAM, each with different video and network cards ? Printing - I'd suggest either a short list (ideally one or two only) of printers for which we can develop a standard setup, or a GUI setup tool complete with printer drivers to cover the options. Perhaps we could migrate a suitable tool to the distribution of choice if needed? Partitioning Hard disks - cbv have usually used the KISS approach for single disk installs - one partition mounted on / and one partition for swap. If there are two disks, the larger one is usually mounted on /usr and the other is mounted as / - the swap location would generally be determined on a case by case basis. Occasionally the split might be / and swap on the larger disk, with /home on the smaller, especially if there is a significant difference between them. Hope this helps, Cheers, David H. -- -------------------------- David T. Hatton (davidth at melbpc.org.au) -------------------------- From bogus@does.not.exist.com Tue Apr 3 04:38:12 2007 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2007 04:38:12 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: and he has given me permission to use the premises, which may be useful to computerbank Please bear with me whilst I catch up on the email, I have a couple of hundred messages, should be up to date in about an hour. Regards, greg From bogus@does.not.exist.com Tue Apr 3 04:38:12 2007 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2007 04:38:12 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: >.......................................................... wonder if >this can help. One of our members has been discussing getting funding to >set up a small consultancy offering discounted onsite assistance to local >not-for-profit associations. This might be one of the ways that people >can switch to linux but overcome the difficulty of expensive maintenance >contracts. Or one of the ways of keeping Linux companies afloat? I didn't know Linux companies (in particular) were in strife, but what about the consultancy idea? Bruce From bogus@does.not.exist.com Tue Apr 3 04:38:12 2007 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2007 04:38:12 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: > PS. Any LUNSW members out Penrith way? They are the "SLUG", Sydney Linux Users Group. Regards, Mark Trickett From bogus@does.not.exist.com Tue Apr 3 04:38:12 2007 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2007 04:38:12 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: "I wrote to Computerbank years ago but can't remember the context. I think it was when they were considering an office in Sydney and I thought it would be a good opportunity for us to possibly share facilities/cost. "CASE and Volunteering ACT are establishing a Community Technology Centre here in Canberra and have plans to offer such services. We would much rather support your work in any way that we can as CASE is an IT cooperative designed to support and enhance the use of IT in non-profit/community groups. See http://www.case.org.au for more info." Hope that helps link up you NSW/ACT dudes a bit? :-) Regards, Bruce From bogus@does.not.exist.com Tue Apr 3 04:38:12 2007 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2007 04:38:12 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: In the interests of people anywhere learning Linux, what do you guys think of this course? Bruce >>http://www.free-ed.net/fr03/lfc/030109/123/ >> This is a thorough course in Linux programming, using Red Hat Linux. >> Students can expect to spend between 1 and 2 hours on each lesson, >> including the time for doing the hands-on examples and exercises. >> Typical completion time for the course is about 2 quarters, or 24 weeks. From bogus@does.not.exist.com Tue Apr 3 04:38:12 2007 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2007 04:38:12 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: (See the www.telstrafoundation.com site for details) Bruce =20 Foundation Chairman Mr Herb Elliott endorsed the initiative. =93In a perfect world every person would live to their full potential,=94 Mr Elliott said. =93This is what the Telstra Foundation is really about for me =96 helping children and young people to reach their full potential.=94 The Community Development Fund supports not-for-profit charitable organisations that focus on helping Australian children or young people to overcome challenges and make the most of their lives. The fund will support cultural, health, education, research and disability programs and address important social issues affecting young people.=20 The Telstra Foundation=92s Community Development Fund will be accepting= grant applications twice this year with the closing date for applications 31 May for a decision by the end of August and 27 September for a decision made by early December. The Telstra=92s Kids Fund will also accept grant= applications twice this year with the closing date for applications 31 May with a decision made by the end of July and 13 September with a decision made by mid November.=20 For more information about the Foundation, look at=20 http://www.telstrafoundation.com/ or call 1800 208 378.=20 From bogus@does.not.exist.com Tue Apr 3 04:38:12 2007 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2007 04:38:12 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Anyone able to sort this out ? regards Gary Allpike b e k k e r s information technology * Telephone (08) 9370-5611 * Fax (08) 9272-6625 * Mobile 0400 885 567 * Email ga at bekkersit.com * Web http://www.bekkersit.com -----Original Message----- From: computerbank-admin at lists.linux.org.au [mailto:computerbank-admin at lists.linux.org.au] On Behalf Of Romana Challans Sent: Monday, 23 September 2002 8:06 AM To: Computerbank Australia Inc; cai-sa at cbnsw.org.au Subject: [Computerbank] new computerbanksa home...... new sa site up at : http://sa.computerbank.org.au/ w00t:) r:) ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? Romana Challans GPG Key fingerprint = F09E F80E 5DCA 9476 7753 9423 2CC7 81E8 4F07 1AD2 State Convenor Computerbank Australia Incorporated, SA Branch http://sa.computerbank.org.au/ 'Sometimes even to live is an act of courage.' (Seneca) ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? _______________________________________________ The opinions expressed herein are solely those of the individual, and do not express the opinions of Computerbank Australia Incorporated (CAI) in any way. _______________________________________________ computerbank mailing list computerbank at lists.linux.org.au http://lists.linux.org.au/listinfo/computerbank From bogus@does.not.exist.com Tue Apr 3 04:38:12 2007 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2007 04:38:12 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: http://newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=03/01/02/1445254&tid=13 "2002 was the year that Linux made big news and Microsoft admitted it was their greatest threat. Microsoft's continued attempts at spreading Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt (FUD) in an effort to turn people away from Linux and Open Source didn't get them anywhere. Their focus on increased security didn't get them anywhere either. To top it off, they even ended up paying people to use their software." r:) ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? Romana Challans GPG Key fingerprint = F09E F80E 5DCA 9476 7753 9423 2CC7 81E8 4F07 1AD2 State Coordinator Computerbank Australia Incorporated - Sa Branch http://sa.computerbank.org.au/ ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? From bogus@does.not.exist.com Tue Apr 3 04:38:12 2007 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2007 04:38:12 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: might be useful if we spend around $80-90 dollars of CAI money to buy original copies of our registration certificate for branches in SA and QLD. This way, all branches can have a luverly blue and white cert on their wall, it will never get lost and we'll all feel good all over. :) Item 2. Donation form form that CBNSW provided for donors to sign as necessary Item 3. Monitors and recycling... discussion of Craig_from_CBNSW info on poss procedures for dealing with monitor donations Item 4. Privacy laws Discussion of Kylie's info re privacy laws Item 5. branch access to CAI hardware resources Item 6. Website and SOP (SA) Item 7. Logo (SA) I think that's all Don't forget that the meeting is at 8pm Eastern Daylight Savings Time tonight Pen *************************************************************************************** IMPORTANT NOTICE: Please scan this e-mail message and any attachments before opening for viruses. Kangan Batman TAFE does not accept any responsibility for problems caused by viruses that have been conducted through its e-mail infrastructure.. 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Regards, greg ----- Original Message ----- From: "Price, Tim" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 4:48 PM Subject: RE: [Computerbank] Linux prize for finding PM's email address > > from http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/01/19/1042911270295.html > > "Sure you can fill out some forms on these sites and hope that they reach > the PM but the point is that many voters can't or prefer not to visit these > sites." > > So...'fraid not > > I think Labour probably could've googled themselves! > > -tpgp > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Michael White [mailto:white.mike at bigpond.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, 22 January 2003 16:44 > > To: computerbank at lists.linux.org.au > > Subject: RE: [Computerbank] Linux prize for finding PM's email address > > > > > > Google search result :-) > > > > Email Your PM > > ... What is your email address? ... required if you desire a > > response from the Prime Minister). ... > > www.pm.gov.au/your_feedback/feedback.htm - 27k - Cached - > > Similar pages > > > > I have emailed him a couple of times, he wrote me a letter back! > > Regards Michael. > > PS whats the prize? > > *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** > > > > On 22/1/03 at 4:11 PM Reuben Matene wrote: > > > > >Hey Don, You get a big hug and a kiss (maybe not from me) we'll ask > > >Kylie???? > > > > > >'cerely, Reuben > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>From: "Don Cameron" > > >>Reply-To: computerbank at lists.linux.org.au > > >>To: > > >>Subject: RE: [Computerbank] Linux prize for finding PM's > > email address > > >>Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 14:53:14 +1100 > > >> > > >>What do I get for the Deputy PM's email address :-) > > >> > > >>CYA, Don > > >> > > >>--- > > >>Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > >>Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > >>Version: 6.0.443 / Virus Database: 248 - Release Date: 10/01/03 > > >> > > >> > > >>_______________________________________________ > > >>The opinions expressed herein are solely those of the > > individual, and do > > >>not > > >>express the opinions of Computerbank Australia Incorporated > > (CAI) in any > > >>way. > > >>_______________________________________________ > > >> > > >>computerbank mailing list > > >>computerbank at lists.linux.org.au > > >>http://lists.linux.org.au/listinfo/computerbank > > >>Web page: http://www.computerbank.org.au > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > > >MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* > > >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >The opinions expressed herein are solely those of the > > individual, and do > > >not > > >express the opinions of Computerbank Australia Incorporated > > (CAI) in any > > >way. > > >_______________________________________________ > > > > > >computerbank mailing list > > >computerbank at lists.linux.org.au > > >http://lists.linux.org.au/listinfo/computerbank > > >Web page: http://www.computerbank.org.au > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > The opinions expressed herein are solely those of the > > individual, and do not > > express the opinions of Computerbank Australia Incorporated > > (CAI) in any way. > > _______________________________________________ > > > > computerbank mailing list > > computerbank at lists.linux.org.au > > http://lists.linux.org.au/listinfo/computerbank > > Web page: http://www.computerbank.org.au > > > > > > Australia Post is committed to providing our customers with excellent service. 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If you have received this e-mail in error you must (a) not disseminate, copy or take any action in reliance on it; (b) please notify Australia Post immediately by return e-mail to the sender; and (c) please delete the original e-mail. > _______________________________________________ > The opinions expressed herein are solely those of the individual, and do not > express the opinions of Computerbank Australia Incorporated (CAI) in any way. > _______________________________________________ > > computerbank mailing list > computerbank at lists.linux.org.au > http://lists.linux.org.au/listinfo/computerbank > Web page: http://www.computerbank.org.au > From bogus@does.not.exist.com Tue Apr 3 04:38:12 2007 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2007 04:38:12 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Apparently OpenOffice 1.1 is about twice as fast to load that OpenOffice 1.0. Worth a try. Hugh Orton ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lloyd" To: "Daniel Stone" Cc: Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 1:03 PM Subject: Re: [Computerbank] Re: [cai-sa] Teen Challenge -Network > > Daniel, > > > AbiWord and OOo are both, in my ever so humble opinion, unmitigated > > pieces of shit. > > Your opinions are never humble. > > > OOo took 15min to load its base word processor on my P233MMX laptop, > > and was extremely sluggish when it finally loaded (it was lagging a > > full paragraph behind at some stage), and this was with nothing else > > but twm loaded. > > OpenOffice is slow. However that doesn't make the concept or what it is > trying to do "shit" - it just makes it inappropriate for very slow > machines which is often what ComputerBank gets landed with... > > DSL > _______________________________________________ > The opinions expressed herein are solely those of the individual, and do not > express the opinions of Computerbank Australia Incorporated (CAI) in any way. > _______________________________________________ > > computerbank mailing list > computerbank at lists.linux.org.au > http://lists.linux.org.au/listinfo/computerbank > Web page: http://www.computerbank.org.au > From bogus@does.not.exist.com Tue Apr 3 04:38:12 2007 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2007 04:38:12 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: "Scribus is a Layout program for GNU/Linux??, similar to Adobe?? PageMaker???, QuarkXPress??? or Adobe?? InDesign???, except that it is published under the GNU GPL. Currently, it is still in its early stages of development, but rapidly maturing and very useable. Already, it has the ability to layout newsletters, create corporate stationery, small posters and other documents which need flexible layout and/or the ability to output to professional quality imagesetting equipment. You can do all the typical tasks like placing and rotating text and/or images on a page, specify manual kerning of type and much more. While the goals of the program are for ease of use and simple easy to understand tools, Scribus offers support for professional publishing features, such as CMYK color, easy PDF creation, Encapsulated Postscript import/export and creation of color separations. Graphic formats which can be placed include Ecapsulated Post Script (eps), Joint Photographic Experts Group (jpeg), Portable Network Graphics (png) and XPixMap(xpm)" Linux is really progressing in leaps and bounds with such things! r:) ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? Romana Challans Computerbank Australia Incorporated - SA Branch http://sa.computerbank.org.au/ ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? From bogus@does.not.exist.com Tue Apr 3 04:38:12 2007 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2007 04:38:12 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Dan Treacy from NSW There is still time to pay your fees and become a member. Other financial members are; Penni Diffey Grant Diffey Kylie Davies Con Validas Owen Courtis Vic Koci Trish Fraser Rob Brittain Robert Mead Bill McPherson Those from NSW and SA the Cordinator can forward the membership forms by snail mail and the recipt number for the fees to me at the Vic Office. These people are ewligible to vote at tonights meeting. Grant, Kylie, Rob and Con. Unfortunately i have to work as the person cvering for me is ill. The only agenda item is ratification of new mwmbers. Can someone please log the meeting. Pen