[Computerbank] Just because I swallow, doesn't mean that I like the taste (was Re: About what happened on Computerbank channel)
jgoodwin at chriskaine.com.au
Thu Apr 17 12:08:01 UTC 2003
While I feel that this is more appropriate on cai-vic, some damage
control should occur first.
On Thu, Apr 17, 2003 at 02:49:21AM +1000, ifuckpigs arranged a set of bits into the following:
> As far as I am concerned, this disucssion is over.
Unfortunatly you started another.
> You have said to me a few times of late that I'd have been fired from
> computerbank long ago, if it was a real office. Having worked in several
> real offices during my carrear (yes, I have one of those, I'd been working
> in IT professionally for 6 years before I was introduced to computerbank
> two years ago), I can assure you that my behaviour would not have been an
> issue, because the problems which led to said behaviour would have been
> forcibly solved by the people above both of us long ago. Probably by you
> being fired (see previous paragraph).
I do somewhat agree, Jaymz' attitude came from people not following
procedures. In a real office they'd get a warning then get out the door.
What's the worst about this is that people would complain to him about
their non-compliance with procedures.
> Most of the IT professionals who were ever involved with computerbank have
> left. Myself, grant, or both are still on good terms with almost all of them.
> Can you honestly say the same? I often wonder how believes that one can run
> "computer"bank without, what we have often been described collectivly, "stupid
> lazy geeks".
Most of us who are still associated are the new ones, or the ones who
are (far too) used to politics.
> It's funny, you know, the first time I came into computerbank, both my carrear
> and myself were attacked so viciously by trish, for having the audacity to
> work in IT (the cause of all of the worlds social problems, aparently), that
> I didn't come back for four months after that. People convinced me that it
> was an anomoly. If only they had been telling the truth. Instead, every time
> I go into the office, I am faced with the assertion that my time has no value.
> For someone who came to computerbank in the process of burning out to the point
> of almost complete breakdown from overwork in his last job, it is an
> incredibly bitter pill to swallow. I know that you have said that the
> organisation has a negative effect on your mental health, but you seem to
> believe that you are the only one. Let me assure you that this is about as
> far from this as you can possibly get.
We do treat Jaymz as a code-whore, I don't know anyone who doesn't. I
myself have done on a rare occacsion (that I do try to avoid)
People need to admit their failings.
I feel that Jaymz is mostly justified in his feelings and views. (Even
if I do feel that he came down a bit hard on Kylie she can be like that
Don't reply to this if you're just going to add personal insults. We
don't need any more of that.
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